Mike,

I just read the article of your answer to a question. If I understood it correctly, you are saying that Jesus’ second coming is NOT going to be a literal event, but in fact it will only be a spiritual second coming within us? I have to say this is almost crushing. It seems like all the trash, the trials and tribulation, the suffering in the world that was predicted is literal, but Jesus’ coming back is figurative? I don’t like this. It’s like we are guaranteed to suffer in this life, but no guarantees of anything else. Jesus might help some of us and might not; save some here, which eventually means we suffer, or we die, go to the lake of fire to suffer before we get saved.

D____

Hi D____,

Thank you for taking the time to write. You said:

If I understood it correctly, you are saying that Jesus’ second coming is NOT going to be a literal event, but in fact it will only be a spiritual second coming with in us? I have to say this is almost crushing. It seems like all the trash, the trials and tribulation, the suffering in the world that was predicted is literal but Jesus’ coming back is figurative?

Well, all I can say is you did not understand what I was saying at all. I would appreciate it if you would show me where I have ever said that Christ’s second coming is only figurative? If you would send me the link on which you read that, I could deal with your concerns.

The fact is, I have never said or intimated that Christ’s coming is figurative. The fact that I acknowledge that we, as His persecuted few, are “Jesus of Nazareth” in no way means that we are the head or that our Head will not be here on earth when He sets up His elect as literal physical rulers of this earth. He Himself is here now, and He Himself has never left us. If that is all just ‘figurative’ to you, then I am sorry, but I do not feel that He is only “figuratively” living His life within me. I know that He is literally doing so, or I would not be so hated for simply quoting and expounding upon the Bible.

For example:

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

So while it is true that Christ is a spirit, it is not true that spirits cannot appear as flesh and blood. They can and they have and they will do so:

Gen 18:1 And the LORD [Hebrew: Yahweh] appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Gen 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

The Lord, a spirit Himself, appeared to Abraham in the plains of Mamre. He ate of the fatted calf with Abraham. He did not figuratively meet with and eat with Abraham, and that is the way it will be during the time when God’s spiritual elect are ruling this physical, carnal earth. They will appear at that time as Christ appeared to His carnal physical disciples after His own resurrection to a body of spirit. Here is what spirit is capable of doing:

Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Was Christ raised with a spiritual body? Yes, He was.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Yet when He was resurrected, He appeared suddenly in a locked room and ate a meal with His disciples:

Luk 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luk 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luk 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
Luk 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

That is what I believe and teach we will be while ruling this earth during the symbolic thousand years.

A physical body is so very limited and cannot even carry this dying body of flesh but “for a time”.

Jas 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

So if the ability to move at the speed of light and still appear as a physical body, enjoying the fatted calf and broiled fish and honeycomb “sounds crushing” to you, I do not know what to say. I myself cannot wait. With such abilities as these in the hands of God’s elect, taking power from the world leaders and all of their generals will not even be a challenge.

I hope this helps you see that you simply did not understand what I was saying.

Your brother and in Christ,
Mike

Ok… figurative was a bad word to use. But I understand now, as far as the elect ruling and you do believe we will have these abilities. (I say WE as with a hope) I guess I just want to be able to know that one day all this misery will end. I just want some kind of hope that Jesus will return in absolute power. This I would love to see and soon… hopefully.

D____

God’s blessing be on you!

Just for the record, I say ‘we in hope’ also, because that is the Godly attitude of all in whom Christ dwells.

Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Those who are with Christ are not just called and chosen, as was Judas, who did not forsake Christ with the first great falling away of John 6, but those who are with Christ in the armies of heaven on symbolic white horses, are “called, and chosen, and faithful” to the end.

It is my fervent prayer that both you and I are a part of the heavenly army with our Lord, who will literally destroy all opposition to the rule of Him and His elect during that symbolic “one thousand years”.
The outcome of that battle has already been determined, and I am hoping to be on the winning side with you.

In the meantime, it is the battle in the heavens which must be fought and won, and that is where we must keep our emphasis for now if we want to be rulers who will not tolerate all the suffering being perpetrated upon mankind at this time.

We are fighting a war in the heavens, and we will be saved by the hope of winning that war through “Christ in us”:

Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Your excited fellow soldier,

Mike