Mike,     
How are you? I was hoping for some help on some verses in Gen 3. I hope this isn’t too lengthy for you, but I am very interested to seeing your understanding of this. In Gen 3:4,5 –  only verse 4 was a lie correct? verse 5 was true? Gen 3:7 –   Is this like any man ? He doesn’t realize he’s naked until he realizes he has broken God’s law than the scales fall off his eyes and he sees the need for a saviour but tries to obtain it by his own righteousness? I don’t understand verses Gen 3: 8-10 in light of everything you taught me about Adam’s carnal nature from the formation of the dust to the trees symbolizing the law and Christ. How do these verses relate to us? Lastly when the commandment was given to Adam, he didn’t know good and evil, but the woman remembered the commandment, it was in her heart. So what did it actually mean to her seeing she didn’t understand good and evil. I’m kinda confused on this topic and eagerly waiting a reply.
Thanks so much, M____

Hi M____,
Thank you for your question.
Here are the verses in question:

Gen 3:4  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree [ was] good for food, and that it [ was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [ one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Gen 3:7  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [ were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Gen 3:8  And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9  And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
Gen 3:10  And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

You ask:
“In Gen 3:4,5 –  only verse 4 was a lie correct? verse 5 was true?”

That is right. God says “the soul that sinneth it shall die,” and the serpent says we are spirit and cannot die. Here is God:

Gen 2:16  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 3:19  In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Eze 18:4  Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Eze 18:20  The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Ecc 3:18  I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, t hat God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
Ecc 3:19  For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath [ Hebrew; ruach – spirit]; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
Ecc 3:20  All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecc 9:5  For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

God tells us that we are dust and will return to dust, and the serpent tells us the we are spirit like God and cannot die. Who will you believe?

Gen 3:4  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Here is your next question:
“Gen 3:7 –   Is this like any man? He doesn’t realize he’s naked until he realizes he has broken God’s law then the scales fall off his eyes, and he sees the need for a saviour but tries to obtain it by his own righteousness?

That is right. Eve committed every sin in the world before she ever touched the tree.

1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Gen 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food [ lust of the flesh], and that it was pleasant to the eyes [ lust of the eyes], and a tree to be desired to make one wise [ the pride of life], she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

There it is. Eve had not even touched the tree yet, and she had committed “the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life… all that is in the world.” She had been created in sin, and it only took eating of the tree to cause her to realize that she had been created of the dust and naked, both scriptural types of corruption and sin.

Psa 51:5  Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Jer 18:4  And the vessel that he made of clay [ Adam and Eve] was marred in the hand of the potte r: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

 If Adam and Eve were not “marred in the hand of the Potter” before they ate of the tree, then they would have been incapable of trespassing against God. But they were “marred in the hand of the Potter” and were not even yet knowledgeable of what was good and evil. Nakedness is a type of sin throughout God’s word. Adam and Eve were naked and were not even capable of shame until after they ate of the tree.
To answer your question directly, yes, that is just like all of us. We are all naked at birth and are not even ashamed until we come to realize our sinful condition.

Your next question is:
“I don’t understand verses Gen 3: 8-10 in light of everything you taught me about Adam’s carnal nature from the formation of the dust to the trees symbolizing the law and Christ. How do these verses relate to us?”

Here are those verses:

Gen 3:8  And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9  And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
Gen 3:10  And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

That is you and me. When we know that we have disobeyed God, we certainly are not in any mood to sit down and study God’s Word. We know that it will condemn our sins, so we just stay away from God. What neither we nor Adam realized was that the whole thing had been planned as it is and God had already written in “His book, every day of Adam’s life which had already been planned:

Psa 139:16  Thine eyes did see mine unformed substance; And in thy book they were all written, Even the days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was none of them.
Pro 16:1  The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.

Pro 16:4  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked [ within] for the day of evil [ within].
Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [ things].
Eph 1:11  in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will;

If you place any of this outside of yourself, you are not comparing spiritual with spiritual. Instead you are comparing physical with physical, and you are missing the message about the kingdom within. That is why the elect of God are said to be “full of eyes within.” See the study notes on The Four Beasts In The Middle and Around The Throne Of God, which will be posted in the next few days.

Rev 4:8  And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Your last question was:
“Lastly when the commandment was given to Adam, He didn’t know good and evil but the women remembered the commandment, it was in her heart. So what did it actually mean to her seeing she didn’t understand good and evil. I’m kinda confused on this topic and eagerly waiting a reply.”

Like all of us to begin with, God’s commandments mean nothing. You say “It was in her heart.” Many very young children memorize the ten commandments before they have any understanding of the words idols, honor or adultery or covet. Just knowing a commandment does not place that commandment in your heart. It is not in the heart of man to please God. It is in the heart of man to rebel against God, because we are born with a carnal mind:

Rom 8:6  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

That’s how we know we are born “of our father the devil.” When Christ told Nicodemus, “You must be born again,” He was not comparing physical with spiritual. Christ was “comparing spiritual with spiritual.” That is how the holy spirit teaches and that is how Christ taught.

1Co 2:13  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The same was true in the garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were born of the serpent which made them decide to obey the serpent. They were already dying, but they had not yet transgressed God’s commandments. When they did transgress, then they became aware that they did not want to see God, but they were comfortable with the words of the serpent:

Rom 6:16  Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Being a servant and being a son is the same in scripture:

Gal 4:1  Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
Gal 4:2  But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
Gal 4:3  Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Adam is the “son of God:”

Luk 3:38  Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

But by obeying the serpent, Adam became the seed of the serpent. We are all born of the serpent before we are born of God. That is what Christ meant when He told Nicodemus, “you must be born again,” and that is what Paul meant when he told the Galatians that he was

Joh 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Gal 4:19  My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

If we are to learn what the holy spirit is teaching is in these two verses we must “compare spiritual with spiritual.”
I hope this helps you to see that Christ’s words “are spirit” and I hope it helps you to understand Gen 3:4-10.

Joh 6:63  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Your brother in Christ,’
Mike