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“Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend”

  (Pro 27:17-27)

[Study Aired April 16, 2026]

Pro 27:17  Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Pro 27:18
  Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured.
Pro 27:19
  As in water face answereth to face, so the heart of man to man.
Pro 27:20
  Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
Pro 27:21
  As the fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold; so is a man to his praise.
Pro 27:22
  Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.
Pro 27:23
  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.
Pro 27:24
  For riches are not for ever: and doth the crown endure to every generation?
Pro 27:25
  The hay appeareth, and the tender grass sheweth itself, and herbs of the mountains are gathered.
Pro 27:26
  The lambs are for thy clothing, and the goats are the price of the field.
Pro 27:27
  And thou shalt have goats’ milk enough for thy food, for the food of thy household, and for the maintenance for thy maidens.

Our title, “Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend”, taken from verse 17 of this chapter,  is a powerful metaphor that reminds us that growth is never meant to be a solitary journey (Heb 10:25). This proverb from last week’s study (Pro 27:9) confirms that it is Christ in us who makes it possible for us to be a joint that supplies in love (Eph 4:16, Col 1:27, Rom 5:5, Rom 8:30-34).

God’s word of course is likened unto a sharp two-edged sword (Heb 4:12), and both breastplates and swords can be made of iron, and so we’re reminded of the constant need in these verses as the body of Christ to be sure that we are clothed with the spiritual armour that God grants us in this life (Rom 8:29-32) in order to do battle against the powers and principalities that we constantly war against (Eph 6:12). This is how we can be an effective joint that “maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love” (Eph 6:10-18, 1Th 5:1-11).

Pro 27:17  Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Iron is being likened unto God’s word in this opening proverb, and we know God sends His word to bring healing (Psa 107:20, Joh 20:21, Joh 3:17), especially to God’s elect in this age (1Ti 4:10). It is because of our belief in that word (Joh 6:68, Joh 6:28) that we can grow and overcome and endure the reproach that comes upon us for trusting in the living God who is the saviour of all men.

1Ti 4:10  For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God (Eph 1:12), who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe (specially of those who are doing the work of God in this age Joh 6:28-29).

Joh 6:28  Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Joh 6:29  Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Two examples of God’s word being sent to bring spiritual healing: “Iron sharpening iron”

1- Nathan Confronts David “Iron sharpening iron”

2Sa 12:13  And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.(Eph 2:8, Psa 32:2)

2- Paul Confronts Peter “Iron sharpening iron”

Gal 2:11  But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

 

Pro 27:18  Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured.

Keeping the fig tree is just another way of saying “Occupy till I come”(Luk 19:13), the fig tree representing the body of Christ as does the vineyard that we occupy. Our labours our not in vain in the Lord (1Co 15:58) and we are reminded through Christ directly that “he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured”(Mat 24:42-47).

Luk 19:13  And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

1Co 15:58  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.(Heb 11:6)

Mat 24:42  Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Mat 24:43  But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. [Christ is the goodman in our temple (1Co 3:16, Col 1:27) and we are being told to not neglect so great a salvation by stirring up the spirit of God within us, and Christ will then be that goodman who will be the author and finisher of our faith (Heb 2:3, Heb 12:2, Php 2:12-13)]
Mat 24:44  Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:45  Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
Mat 24:46  Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Mat 24:47  Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. (Luk 9:23, Joh 6:44, Mat 19:27-30)

We are not just passively sitting around or mentally not involved as we wait for the Lord’s return but rather we are by God’s grace fearfully (Mat 10:28) taking on all these needful qualities in our life (Heb 11:7, Heb 5:7, Mat 18:8-9, Rom 13:11) that will make it possible for us to be scarcely saved as it says in (1Pe 4:18).

Heb 11:7  By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith (1Jn 5:4).

Heb 5:7  Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

Mat 18:8  Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. (Heb 11:26)

Rom 13:11  And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Pro 27:19  As in water face answereth to face, so the heart of man to man.

When we understand our own heart we will get insight into the heart of others is what this proverb is saying, and that is true for both the negative and positive things that come forth from our hearts (Jas 3:10-18, 1Co 3:1-6).

Jas 3:14  But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

1Co 3:3  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

What we know about the heart of man is that it is deceitful and desperately wicked above all things (greatest enemy we have is seen in the mirror every morning Jer 17:9). That’s who the beast on the throne who is empowered by the devil is (Rev 13:4), and he must be destroyed by the brightness of Christ coming into our lives daily (2Th 2:3-8) so that we can go from glory to glory (2Co 3:18) ripping this veil of flesh daily, keeping under ourselves (Heb 10:20, 1Co 10:16), as we die daily, to ultimately see Christ face to face one day (2Co 3:13, 1Co 13:12). For now we see through a glass darkly making the way very narrow for those few who are called to be in that blessed and holy first resurrection (Mat 7:14).

2Co 3:18  But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

1Co 13:12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Mat 7:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The reflection that we see of ourselves in the water is being paralleled with the heart of “man to man”. We are beasts that have to be shown we are such, and we cannot become that new creation without acknowledging that truth (Ecc 3:18), and so we must be judged our entire life in order to endure to the end and be saved (1Pe 4:17, Act 14:22)

Act 14:22  Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith (Gal 2:20, 1Jn 5:4), and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Pro 27:20  Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

This proverb is simply telling us what we read here in Ecclesiastes (Ecc 1:8-10).

Ecc 1:8  All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
Ecc 1:9  The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 1:10  Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

This is why the internet with the myriad of search engines on AI steroids fits right into this proverb that says “the eyes of man are never satisfied”(Ecc 12:12, Gen 6:3). All of flesh leads to the same “hell” (H7585 Sheol; grave) “and destruction” (H10 ->H11 Abaddon; perishing) destination, and cannot inherit the kingdom (1Co 15:50). As long as there is flesh, “hell and destruction are never full”.

Ecc 12:12  And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Gen 6:3  And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Our Father is ultimately seeking an occasion against all flesh [all books], and today God’s elect are blessed to be judged and overcome all that is in the world [our books] within us first so that we can fulfill God’s will (1Jn 2:15-17, Eph 2:8, Eph 1:12, Php 1:29).

1Jn 2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. [the narrow way Mat 7:14]

Pro 27:21  As the fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold; so is a man to his praise.

Pro 27:21  People use fire to make gold and silver pure. In the same way, a man is tested by the praise people give him. (ERV)

Pro 27:21  The heating-pot is for silver and the oven-fire for gold, and a man is measured by what he is praised for. (BBE)

In these verses we are being shown that when we go through trials our life is going to be refined, “fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold”. It is those tests that we go through that bring us to a place where we are standing in the Lord and if standing we are giving honour where honour is due, “a man is measured by what he is praised for” (Rom 13:7). All that glory and honour are God’s for the work that He does within us as His workmanship (Eph 2:10).

God has worked a work in our lives which is expressed in these verses (this is thethe fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold”1Co 3:12-14) and it is all being accomplished by God through Christ who told us of himself he can do nothing without the Father, just as we of our own selves can do nothing without Christ (1Jn 4:17) while in these earthen vessels (Luk 19:40, Joh 15:5, Joh 5:30, Rom 1:20).

Luk 17:10  So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Mic 6:8  He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

1Co 3:12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14  If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

Pro 27:22  Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

Pro 27:22  No matter how hard you beat a fool, you can’t pound out the foolishness. [CEV]

This proverb is speaking about our old man whose hardened heart cannot change and make war with the beast (Rev 13:4), until the day of evil is revealed within ourselves (Pro 16:4) and the man of perdition is destroyed by the brightness of Christ’s coming into our heavens (Joh 8:36). Christ is the pestle that crushes the wheat in the lives of God’s elect for good, but if we are not being worked with in this age our sorrowful situations will not change us, being of a worldly sort and not Godly sorrow that is not to be repented of.  (2Co 7:9-10). Godly sorrow brings forth fine flour that is refined and able to be used to nourish the body of Christ as the next verse goes on to show (2Co 7:11)

2Co 7:9  Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
2Co 7:10  For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. (“Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him”)
2Co 7:11  For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

Pro 27:23  Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

Pro 27:23  You should take good care of your sheep and goats, (CEV)

David was a man after God’s own heart, and so there is a correlation to repentance in the lives of God’s people that is needful if we are going to be justified and take good care of the Lord’s flocks and herds (Luk 18:14). We are taking good care of the flocks and herds when we have a contrite and broken heart which is a gift from God (Isa 66:2). Verse (Isa 66:3) is contrasted with (Isa 66:2) to show the difference between a sacrifice that is acceptable versus one that is not.

Isa 66:2  For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
Isa 66:3  He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Pro 27:24  For riches are not for ever: and doth the crown endure to every generation?
Pro 27:25
  The hay appeareth, and the tender grass sheweth itself, and herbs of the mountains are gathered.

Pro 27:24  because wealth and honor don’t last forever.
Pro 27:25  After the hay is cut and the new growth appears and the harvest is over, (CEV)

The imagery of youthful spiritual beginnings is illustrated with these words, “The hay appeareth, and the tender grass sheweth itself, and herbs of the mountains are gathered”, speaking of the sincere milk of the word that we can grow by (1Pe 2:2), going onto maturity no longer a babe in Christ but able to partake of strong meat (Heb 5:13-14, Eph 4:13-15, 1Pe 5:10).

Heb 5:13  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

1Pe 5:10  But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

There are seasons in our lives where we will be less productive, and God has purposed this and calls us to pray for that renewed growth “because wealth and honor don’t last forever” and “After the hay is cut and the new growth appears and the harvest is over” we need to continue to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling to the end (Php 2:12-13), patiently possessing our souls (Heb 10:36, Luk 21:19) and waiting for the next harvest, the next increase, that God gives in our lives (1Co 10:11-13, 1Co 3:6, Jas 5:7).

1Co 10:11  Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
1Co 10:12  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
1Co 10:13  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

1Co 3:6  I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

Jas 5:7  Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
Jas 5:8  Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts:(1Pe 5:10) for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

Pro 27:26  The lambs are for thy clothing, and the goats are the price of the field.
Pro 27:27
  And thou shalt have goats’ milk enough for thy food, for the food of thy household, and for the maintenance for thy maidens.

Pro 27:26  you can sell lambs and goats to buy clothes and land.
Pro 27:27  From the milk of the goats, you can make enough cheese to feed your family and all your servants. (CEV)

We are like Christ on this earth (1Jn 4:17-18) and as such we are sheep for the slaughter (Rom 8:36) whose lives are sacrificed for each other so that we can clothe each other, “The lambs are for thy clothing”, as a joint that supplies in love (Eph 4:16). The end result of our due diligence in the Lord which is accompanied by repentance (Rom 2:4) is an abundant spiritual harvest which is being likened unto with these words, “The lambs are for thy clothing, and the goats are the price of the field” and “goats’ milk enough for thy food, for the food of thy household, and for the maintenance for thy maidens”. Between harvests in our lives we have enough spiritual store laid up, which is what this plenty is talking about [likened also unto extra oil in our vessels given by the grace of God (Mat 25:4, Eph 2:8)].

Finally we share in paying for “the price of the field” as the scapegoat along with Christ. The field is the world (Mat 13:38), and God so loves the world that He bruises Christ as well as His body (Isa 53:10, Mat 21:44, Php 1:29, 2Ti 2:12) so that we can share in being saviours with our Lord who will come up on “mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD’S” (Oba 1:21).

Lev 16:10  But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

Col 1:24  Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: (the fit man within Col 1:27, the same fit man Lev 16:21)

Isa 53:10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes[a] his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.[NIV]

Mat 21:44  Any man falling on this stone will be broken, but he on whom it comes down will be crushed to dust.

Php 1:29  Because to you it has been given in the cause of Christ not only to have faith in him, but to undergo pain on his account:

Oba 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD’S.

These final few verses we’ve looked at remind us that Christ not only had the preeminence in being crushed for our sakes, but has also taken on the role of our high priest so we can be assured that we can indeed drink the cup. (Mat 20:23, Rom 5:10). God’s word, Christ,  is that strong sword in our heavens who is able to sharpen our heavens and prepare us to endure whatever the future holds for the bride of Christ (Joh 18:9).

Mat 20:23  And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Rom 5:10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Joh 18:9  That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.

 

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The Book of Romans – Rom 15-16, Part 34 https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/the-book-of-romans-rom-15-16-part-34/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-book-of-romans-rom-15-16-part-34 Tue, 02 Jul 2024 20:27:28 +0000 https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=30243 Audio Download

The Book of Romans – Rom 15-16, Part 34 – Paul the Minister to the Gentiles

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Rom 15:14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. 
Rom 15:15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God, 
Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. 
Rom 15:17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God. 
Rom 15:18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, 
Rom 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. 
Rom 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation: 
Rom 15:21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand. 
Rom 15:22 For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you. 
Rom 15:23 But now having no more place in these parts, and having a great desire these many years to come unto you;
Rom 15:24 Whensoever I take my journey into Spain, I will come to you: for I trust to see you in my journey, and to be brought on my way thitherward by you, if first I be somewhat filled with your company. 
Rom 15:25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. 
Rom 15:26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. 
Rom 15:27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. 
Rom 15:28 When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain.
Rom 15:29 And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ. 
Rom 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ’s sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me; 
Rom 15:31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints; 
Rom 15:32 That I may come unto you with joy by the will of God, and may with you be refreshed. 
Rom 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

In Romans chapters 12 through 15, the Apostle Paul provides guidance to the early Christians on how to live their faith in everyday life, emphasizing the importance of unity within the “body of Christ.” In Romans 15:14-33, Paul wraps up this section by praising the Roman believers, saying he is sure they are full of goodness, knowledge, and able to help each other grow. This affirmation highlights the essential role of every member in the body of Christ to preach the gospel to one another, encouraging spiritual growth and unity.

Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. 

Even though Paul trusts their abilities, he writes boldly because of the grace God has given him. He speaks about his mission to the Gentiles (non-Jews in the flesh), emphasizing that it is his duty to bring them to faith, guided by the Holy Spirit. This mission reflects the broader responsibility of all believers to share the gospel, not just with those who have never heard it, but also within the Christian community to strengthen and edify each other.

Eph 2:19-22 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. 

Paul shares how he has spread the Gospel, performing miracles and preaching from Jerusalem to Illyricum. His dedication to preaching in new areas where people haven’t heard about Christ yet also underscores the importance of continually sharing the gospel within the body of Christ, ensuring that all members are built up in their faith. Paul expresses his wish to visit the Roman Christians, hoping for mutual encouragement and support, demonstrating how the body of Christ thrives when believers actively share and reinforce the gospel message among themselves.

He also discusses the importance of the Gentile believers’ contributions to the poor Christians in Jerusalem, showing how all Christians are connected and responsible for each other. This mutual support within the body of Christ is vital, as preaching the gospel to one another nurtures a spirit of generosity, care, and unity.

Finally, Paul asks for their prayers for his safety and for his work to be accepted. He ends with a blessing of peace for everyone. This passage shows Paul’s vision of a unified, supportive, and mission-driven Christian community where preaching the gospel to each other is a fundamental practice, ensuring that every member grows in faith and love, contributing to the overall health and strength of the body of Christ.

Matthew 28:19-20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Ephesians 4:11-13 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

1 Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Continuing with chapter 16.

Rom 16:1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: 
Rom 16:2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Rom 16:3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus: 
Rom 16:4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles. 
Rom 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ. 
Rom 16:6 Greet Mary, who bestowed much labour on us. 
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. 
Rom 16:8 Greet Amplias my beloved in the Lord. 
Rom 16:9 Salute Urbane, our helper in Christ, and Stachys my beloved. 
Rom 16:10 Salute Apelles approved in Christ. Salute them which are of Aristobulus’ household. 
Rom 16:11 Salute Herodion my kinsman. Greet them that be of the household of Narcissus, which are in the Lord.
Rom 16:12 Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa, who labour in the Lord. Salute the beloved Persis, which laboured much in the Lord. 
Rom 16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine. 
Rom 16:14 Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren which are with them. 
Rom 16:15 Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints which are with them. 
Rom 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you. 

In Romans 16:1-16, Paul recognizes and honors many individuals who have supported his ministry and contributed to the growth of the early church. These greetings highlight the significant roles of both men and women in the ministry, the importance of the churches, and the deep bonds of love and respect within the Christian community. This passage reflects the collective effort and unity necessary for the spread of the Gospel.

Continuing with our verses.

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 

These verses warn against those who cause divisions and offenses contrary to sound doctrine. This aligns with other scriptures that emphasize unity and sound teaching:

1 Cor 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

The warning to “avoid them” is consistent with other biblical teachings:

Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil. 

This verse encourages wisdom in good things and simplicity concerning evil. This echoes Jesus’ words:

Matt 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. 

The promise that God will bruise Satan reflects the prophecy in Genesis:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Rom 16:21 Timotheus my workfellow, and Lucius, and Jason, and Sosipater, my kinsmen, salute you. 
Rom 16:22 I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord. 
Rom 16:23 Gaius mine host, and of the whole church, saluteth you. Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a brother. 

These verses list various individuals who send greetings. This practice of sending greetings is common in Paul’s epistles, emphasizing the unity and fellowship of believers across different locations.

Rom 16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. 

This final blessing echoes Paul’s common closing in his letters, emphasizing the importance of grace:

2 Thess 3:18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Overall, these verses emphasize the importance of sound doctrine, unity among believers, wisdom in dealing with those who cause division, and the eventual triumph of God over evil. It also demonstrates the interconnectedness of the early Christian community through personal greetings.

Here are our final verses of Romans.

Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 
Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Rom 16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Written to the Romans from Corinthus, and sent by Phebe servant of the church at Cenchrea. 

These verses speak of a “mystery” that was hidden but is now revealed. This aligns with the spiritual nature of God’s truth. We must approach this with spiritual discernment, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

This passage mentions “scriptures of the prophets,” emphasizing the importance of searching the scriptures. We should not interpret this privately but seek confirmation from other parts of scripture.

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

God’s word is true and endures forever. 

Psalm 119:160 The sum of thy word is truth; And every one of thy righteous ordinances endureth for ever. ASV

The “mystery” refers to God’s plan of salvation through Christ, now revealed to all nations. 

Rom 11:25-28 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. 

The doxology in verse 27 emphasizes God’s wisdom, reminding us of our dependence on His revelation rather than our understanding.

In conclusion, this passage encapsulates the grand narrative of scripture, God’s eternal plan, once hidden, now revealed in Christ, made known through the scriptures for the obedience of faith among all peoples, all for God’s glory.

Rom 1:16-17 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

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How the Church Should Entreat Her Elders https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/how-the-church-should-entreat-her-elders/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=how-the-church-should-entreat-her-elders Tue, 28 Jul 2020 03:08:55 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=21182 How The Church Should Entreat Her Elders

1 Timothy 5:1, 17-21

[Study Aired July 26, 2020]

Across the bible, God has so much to say about elders, from the torah to Revelation. There is not a single verse one can find in the word of God where the elderly are being derided or rebuked (Save for 2Kings 2:23, and those rude young people met a sad end as a result of their blatant disrespect of Elisha). It is our modern cultures which have brought us here. In our modern cultures the younger generation have taken over, and they have no value for the parents and their elders. For Governments to appear politically correct, they have given in to these demands, and laws have been changed to place youth on a par with parents and their elders. “Human rights” is no longer human (Anthropos) but is now more about children’s rights and women rights. This so-called modernism is violently placing parents and elders under youth, in communities and churches. Little  wonder this is prophesied by the prophet Isaiah, so we should not be dismayed.

Isa 3:4  And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.
Isa 3:5  And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

Isa 3:12  As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

God’s divine order is that correction, discipline and respect for the elders must be a strong foundation in any righteous community, even if modernism has thrown it out through the window. Families and church must heed this piece of instruction!

1Ti 5:1  Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; (KJV)

1 Tim 5:1 Don’t speak angrily to an elder. But talk to him as if he were your father. Treat the younger men like brothers. (Paraphrased)

The word Intreat is G3870. Παρακαλέω. parakaleo

“to call to one’s side, call for, summon, call upon, that which may be done in the way of exhortation, entreaty, comfort, instruction, etc.
To admonish, to beg, beseech, to strive to appease, to console, to encourage and strengthen by consolation,”

In summary it is instructive to respond to an elder with honour and respect.

Below are scriptures that further clarify how to entreat elders, and those who disobey God’s word should be admonished.

Lev 19:32  You shall rise up in the face of gray haired; and you shall honor the face of an old man; and be afraid of your God. I am Jehovah.

Heb 13:17 Be persuaded by your leaders, and be deferring to them, for they are vigilant for the sake of your souls, as having to render an account, that they may be doing this with joy, and not with groaning, for this is disadvantageous for you.”

Job 32:3  Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job.
Job 32:4  Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he. 
Job 32:5  When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled.
Job 32:6  And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion.

God instituted elders both in the Old and New Testaments. These are not just titles to fill space but critical tools in God’s eternal purposes. The architecture of the twelve foundations, both in the house Jacob and in the heavens, is structured around elders. Therefore, we must take seriously all instructions and commands about elders (honour and respect, correction and discipline). The same instructions are not given about the rest of the family/the body of Christ.

1Ti 5:17  Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
1Ti 5:18  For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
1Ti 5:19<  Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
1Ti 5:20  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
1Ti 5:21  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

How should we treat those whom God has called to be leaders in the body? Secondly, how do we correct them when they sin, teach heresy, or have personality conflict with any among the flock?

Then thirdly, what does the Bible say about disciplining an elder? Is there a difference between disciplining one of the flock and disciplining an elder?

in 1 Thessalonians 5:12-15, we read:

“And we urge you brethren to recognize [it means to respect, to know well] those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love for their work’s sake. Be at peace among yourselves. Now we exhort you brethren, warn those who are unruly [Those who are acting in an unruly manner, insubordinate toward those in leadership, who we should be esteeming highly are examples of being unruly. Unfortunately, some at Thessalonica were acting toward their elders in an unruly worldly fashion.], comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, BE PATIENT WITH ALL. See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all.

The key phrase is, of course, verse 13. “Esteem them very highly in love for their work’s sake.” As long as verse 13 is always at the back of our minds, every argument, attitude and behavior toward an elder must begin and rotate around that requirement for very high esteem. Not fear them, not simple respect, but VERY high esteem, whatever “very high” means to you. The bible does not just throw words out for no reason. Every word has been placed by the Holy Spirit for us, with exception to translators’ additions. Every word (in the original languages) makes the whole difference. Here, Paul is not talking about those in government because he is speaking about those who labour in the word (their work).

Are we to obey and submit to elders no matter what? No! When are those occasions when we would not be obligated to obey, in fact, we would be obligated not to obey?

In summary, if an elder or some elders, were to ask us to do/believe something, or they were to lead us to do something that is unbiblical (false doctrine), that is unethical, that is illegal or immoral, then we would be obligated to say, “No.” We would be obligated to disobey in such a case. We would be obligated actually to follow what we are going to see in 1 Timothy 5:20. Now, note again very carefully the four categories I just mentioned: If it is unbiblical doctrinally or otherwise, if it is unethical, if it is illegal, if it is immoral. Should God allow those four things to happen among us (and He will as He desires after the counsel of His will), the body or any of us in the body must confront the elder in love, and we shall shortly see how that confrontation is done scripturally.

Are you saying elders could be wrong at times? Ooh, yes! Here is a case study for consideration:

Exo 32:1  And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
Exo 32:2  And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
Exo 32:3  And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
Exo 32:4  And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
Exo 32:5  And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, Tomorrow is a feast to the LORD.

However, I have been in so many historical situations in Babylon and have observed so many modern churches where they confronted their leader or leadership, and they disobeyed their shepherds, and they opposed those who were over them, and it was not done for those four parameters I have mentioned above.

I could hear statements like “Well, I just don’t like the way he is leading. I just don’t like the direction the fellowship or church is going. I don’t like the way they are prosecuting the word of God, or they spend money etc, etc”. Again, let me repeat for our better understanding; has the elder done (or said) something illegal? “No.” Immoral? “No.” Unethical? “No.” Unbiblical? “No.” By the way, if you examine carefully, these four areas of assessming when to confront an elder are a kind of summary of the qualifications of an elder. Statements like, “Why can’t he do things this or that way?”  “I just don’t like him or his presentation” etc, are advance indicators of serious problems within a carnal believer.

Such a believer has yielded his/her heart to the enemy to break up the body. A brother/sister with this attitude has a problem, and their problem is not with the elder(s). Their problem is with the Great Shepherd, the Lord Jesus Christ, and at that point one has now stepped into a serious world of rebellion and potential judgment.

We must be diligent to obey the word of God in matters of interpersonal relationships and discipline in the body. The New Testament provides 31 positive and 13 negative one-another commands, to emphasize interpersonal relationships in the church. So how we treat one another, including elders who may be in “error”, is extremely important. When we act in disobedience to 1 Thessalonians 5:12-15 and are tempted to reprimand our elder(s) unduly, we are mistreating those whom God has divinely, sovereignly called to a leadership assignment in the body.

Here are other texts in the Bible that deal with issues of church discipline (including interpersonal private relationships with an elder). The first is found on the lips of Jesus. In Matthew 18:15-17, “Moreover, if your brother [an elder is a brother] sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother, but if he will not hear, take with you one or two more that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. [And we’re going to see that same principle expounded about an elder in just a moment in 1 Timothy 5]. And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.”

Matthew 18, Deuteronomy 17 and 19, are applicable universally to the whole body, including any issues touching interpersonal relationships with or among elders. In our relationships, the church cannot abandon scripture and embrace our various individual cultures whether Eastern, western or animist.

Therefore, you start with ‘one’. If he won’t hear one, go with two or three. If he will not hear the two or three, then you are to bring him before the church, and enact Matthew 18:17, “If he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.” This means you are to cast him out and treat him like an unbeliever. However, this is not a private individual affair, and the statement “tell it to the church” is weighty and carries its own protocols. Whoever we are, if we do not follow these laid-down procedures by our Lord whenever there is an infraction between us, then we are disobeying His commandments blatantly and willingly.

Then the question comes, what does it mean, “tell it to the church”? What is meant by that phrase? We must consult the sum of God’s word.

Psa 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth, And all of Your righteous ordinances are eonian. (CLV)

2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own explanation.

When you put together Deuteronomy 19:17-18, Acts 15:6, 12, 22-23, Hebrews 13:17 and 1 Corinthians 6:4-5, the verses clearly define for us who or what the church is, in matters of discipline and correction in the body. See now how these scriptures flow together:

Deu 19:17  Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
Deu 19:18  And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

Act 15:6  And the apostles and elders came together for to consider this matter.

Act 15:12  Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

Act 15:22  Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Act 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

The matter was first taken to “the apostles and elders”. The whole multitude ‘kept silence’ to hear what the apostles had to say, and “then it pleased the apostles and elders with the  whole church” to send a letter to the Gentiles…

This is consistent with Hebrews 13:17:

Heb 13:17 Be persuaded by your leaders, and be deferring to them, for they are vigilant for the sake of your souls, as having to render an account, that they may be doing this with joy, and not with groaning, for this is disadvantageous for you.

While Matthew 18 does not say “take with you one or two elders”, the sum of the Lord’s words here certainly indicate that we should “be deferring to our elders” in every situation.

The principle revealed in shaming the Corinthians for bringing matters of judgment to “the least esteemed in the church or outsiders” again indicates that the “one or two others” should preferably be one or two elders.

1Co 6:4  So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church?
1Co 6:5  I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough [preferably a mature elder] to settle a dispute between the brothers, (NLT)

Put these verses together with:

Heb 13:17 Be persuaded by your leaders, and be deferring to them, for they are vigilant for the sake of your souls, as having to render an account, that they may be doing this with joy, and not with groaning, for this is disadvantageous for you.

We are commanded here to “be deferring to… your leaders” and it is “the sum of Thy Word” which is Truth. Considering the example of Acts 15, it is indeed “the apostles and elders” who are to consider any matter before “telling it to the church”. Now it does say, “If they do not hear the church let them be unto you as an heathen man and a publican.” So, “the whole multitude” does not vote on doctrine. We do not see the practice of voting on doctrinal matters. We see consensus and mutual agreement as the Spirit leads. The congregation however, has a function of confirming doctrine to those who are not “persuaded” of “their elders” and are not “deferring to them”. In other words, the congregation is encouraged to let the offenders know that they are not in agreement with the offending brother, but with the eldership/the church.

What about when an elder(s) are in error or sin. First, elders are human, and as much sinners as all of us. However, they deserve respect just like the rest of the flock, even when one feels the elder is errant. There is this one text where the Bible speaks about those who are divisive doctrinally which addresses the issue of elders who shepherd and teach the flock. That is found in Titus 3:8-11. Now, with that as a broad overview of what the Bible has to say about how we treat our elders and how to exercise church discipline on them, Paul applies or addresses both of those issues (correction and discipline) here in this text.

Tit 3:8  This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
Tit 3:9  But AVOID foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Tit 3:10  A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11  Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Before we can correct anyone in the body, in verse 9, we are instructed to avoid certain things. Every imaginable correction must AVOID these traits before we try to correct others, including elders. The word avoid: “peristemi“ literally means to turn oneself about so as to face the other way. Here is what we must prayerfully avoid in correctional experiences:

Tit 3:9  But avoid…

  • foolish questions, (godless issues that do not add to our spiritual maturity)
  • genealogies, (matters trivial and meaningless to basic doctrine, irrelevant issues)
  • contentions, (carnal feel-good, revengeful emotional tantrums)
  • strivings (fighting mode, combatant, quarrelsome)

…for they are unprofitable and vain.p

In Verses 10-11 we are instructed to reject a heretic and divisive man who will not heed the true and accurate counsel of many.

Heretic: The definition of heresy is a belief or action at odds with what is accepted, especially when the behavior is contrary to the doctrine of Christ. A heretic is a person believing in or practicing religious heresy. A person holding an opinion at odds with what has generally been accepted by a multitude of counselors.

Titus was to take measures against those who insisted on going their own way or fronting their own understanding of the word. Their “self-will” makes them self-condemned.

Even if demonstrably a heretic in any one sense of that word, and a disturber of the peace of the body of Christ, God gives no man/woman any other authority over him but to shun him. Reject! [G3868].

Παραιτέομαι, paraiteomai: to refuse, decline, to shun, avoid. For example, of one excusing himself for not accepting a wedding invitation or a feast.

Do a heretic or the sinning elder no harm in body, soul, character, or substance; just hold no communion with him; avoid fellowship, communication, sharing any type of “bread” with one who cannot be admonished, corrected and repent. Leave him alone, leave him to God!

The above instructions to Titus could also be universal to the whole body, but are specifically addressing Elders. Those instructions support Matthew 18. However, we have more tailored instructions that provide specifically how to handle errant elders or if any has a matter against him/them, in 1 Timothy 5:19-21.

1Ti 5:19  Don’t listen to any charge against a church elder, UNLESS AT LEAST TWO OR THREE PEOPLE BRING THE SAME CHARGES. [One individual cannot conclude that an elder is wrong or in error. Therefore, one must check with other saints as a witness, and see if others recognize the heresy.]
1Ti 5:20  But if any of the elders should keep on sinning, they must be corrected in front of the whole church, as a warning to everyone else.
1Ti 5:21  In the presence of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, I order you to follow my instructions! Do nothing out of prejudice, and don’t be partial or have any favorites. (Living Bible)

1Ti 5:21  I testify fully, before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the choice messengers, that these things thou mayest keep, without forejudging, doing nothing by partiality. (YLT)

We should thank God when a church has good elders. Praise God when a man spends a lifetime with integrity, with respect, with holiness, and with godliness and patience.  Tragically, sometimes elders fall by the wayside and sin or even start to teach error (remember the case study of Aaron and the golden calf, or the Nicolaitans). I’ve actually heard (usually it’s Babylonian ministers) people say, “Well, touch not God’s anointed. Touch not God’s anointed.”  This is an erroneous quote from the Old Testament. It was a reference to king Saul NOT to the pastor or the overseer or the elder who is in leadership in the church. Rather, the Bible has a very specific word and a very specific plan of how we would deal with an elder in the church who tragically has gotten involved in sin or is teaching heresy or using unacceptable doctrine or unbiblical phrases. Here are the four steps listed in verses 1 Timothy 5:19-21, above.

FIRST of all, Get All The Facts: 1 Timothy 5:19

Pro 18:13  He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Verse 19, “Do not receive an accusation against an elder except [same phrase you heard on the lips of Jesus back in Matthew 18] from two or three witnesses.” This is a principle found in Deuteronomy 17:6, again elaborated more thoroughly in Deuteronomy 19:15-20, reiterated by Jesus in Matthew 18:16, and confirmed by the Apostle Paul. Here is a biblical way of establishing that indeed the elder has a matter to answer:

Deu 17:6  At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is to die be put to death: he shall not be put to death at the mouth of one witness.

Deu 19:15  One witness shall not rise up against a man for ANY iniquity, and for ANY sin, in ANY sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall a matter be established.
Deu 19:16  If an unrighteous witness rise up against ANY MAN [including an elder] to testify against him of an offence;
Deu 19:17  then both the men between whom the controversy is shall stand before Jehovah, before the priests and the judges that shall be in those days; [issues must not be discussed before a public forum but the matter is brought before priests and judges]
Deu 19:18  and the judges shall make thorough inquiry; and if the witness be a false witness, and he have testified falsely against his brother,
Deu 19:19  then shall ye do unto him as he had thought to have done unto his brother; and thou shalt put evil away from thy midst.
Deu 19:20  And those that remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil in thy midst.

2Co 13:1  This third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall EVERY MATTER be established.

Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother [elders are also brothers] shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone [this is a biblical caveat against any public corrections, arguments or rebuke to a brother or sister]: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

In 1 Timothy 5:19, Paul is providing instruction for how to handle accusations of sin/heresy against the elders. He’s warning against accepting a charge against an elder unless supported by two or three witnesses.

As we read in the Law, it was of utmost importance to safeguard innocent people from false accusation, and as Jewish law required the agreement of two/three witnesses before a man might be called upon to answer a charge, so it must be in the church, especially when an elder is implicated. He must be protected against malicious intent; but if there are real grounds for accusation, then disciplinary action should be taken before the whole church. We saw what the whole church process involves. It is not crowd or public justice. God does not work that way, nor as the worldly justice system. It is very unfair, no, actually sinful. Following the established process in Deuteronomy, all those who do that should be put to death. Apostle James calls such haters, murderers!

In short, when elders are accused the apostle builds in an exhortation to remind the church “two or three witnesses are required not only before an accusation is sustained, but before it is entertained at all.”

Why would Paul provide this exhortation?

It seems most natural here to understand this warning because shepherding leaders are so vulnerable to slander, attacks and false charges. The enemies of the body of Christ often take vengeance on the ministers in the body. A smear campaign can completely ruin an elder’s ministry. So, Paul’s first word to Timothy is that he must never listen to gossip about leaders, or even to a serious accusation if it is made by only one person, unless the evidence has been examined by the eldership thoroughly. Every charge must be endorsed by several responsible people before it is even listened to.

It has been observed, . . . as soon as any charge is made against an elder, it is believed as surely and firmly as if it had been already proved. This happens not only because a higher standard of integrity is required from them, but because nearly everyone overzealously takes these accusations, so that without investigation, they eagerly move to condemn their elders whose good name they ought to be defending.

In other words, if you are going to bring an accusation against an elder there must be multiple witnesses. One is not enough. There must be two and preferably three who can validate and verify the truthfulness of the accusation that is being brought against an elder in the church, SO GET ALL THE FACTS and make sure two other people who are not your close friends/family member, have the same facts based on the word of God not conjectures and false emotional conclusions. The culture of democracy and speaking out what we wish when we want, has never been, will never be and is not biblical. You can talk what you want out there, but before the King and kings and priests, you guard what you say.

Ecc 5:2 Do not be rash with your mouth, And your heart must not hasten to bring forth speech before the One, Elohim; For the One, Elohim, is in the heavens, And you are on the earth; Therefore, let your words become few.”

Now, if the facts are clear and this elder is indeed guilty of heresy or sin, we must act. I believe the Bible is addressing the kind of sin or heresy that is public. It is sin that is serious. Doctrinal heresy is a serious matter because it confuses the flock. If such an error is unrepented publicly, it must be corrected publicly. If it is a sin/heresy that has not been repented of even after it has been highlighted to him privately, it is of the serious sort. So, at that point, move to point #2.

SECOND, Confront Him/Them to Their Face. 1 Timothy 5:20

1Ti 5:20 Those who are sinning be exposing in the sight of all, that the rest also may have fear. (CLV)

“Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all.” So…

  1. They have or are sinning/teaching heresy. 
  2. They are not repentant, about the error or the sin. 
  3. People know about it or heard it. 
  4. It is of a serious nature (not frivolous or trivial matters). 

Paul says, and Paul is assuming, that you have already gone one on one, and they refused your concerns. You cannot publicly confront an elder/brother/sister during an assembly however legitimate the issue is. This kind of confrontation in public is not scriptural at all. It is our carnal way of dressing people down and is sinful. It does not break any bones to be patient and correct the matter later on after the counselors, priests and judges have made THOROUGH inquiry. Moses taught it, Jesus taught it, Paul taught it = 3 witnesses.

Deu 19:17  then both the men between whom the controversy is shall stand before Jehovah, before the priests and the judges that shall be in those days;
Deu 19:18  and the judges shall make thorough inquiry;………

  1. You’ve now gone back with two or three elders, and again, there is no success. 
  2. So, after confronting him one on one, confronting him with multiple witnesses, if he does not hear you at that point, as painful and as unpalatable and as distasteful as it can possibly be, you have to bring it before other elders first (priests and judges). It is good decorum and biblically keeping in rank, if the matter is finally brought to the attention of the whole church by elders, instead of an individual or group of individuals. This is to avoid a possible rebellion where a clique of people wish to break rank and split the church.

The Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 is a good example, and we do not see ordinary brothers discussing the matter and even if they did (because we are told they were present), the Holy Spirit recorded for us what the leaders said and concluded. In fact, James had the last word! There was disputing and disagreements at the beginning, but they all finally were “… persuaded by their leaders, and they deferred to them” [Heb 13:17]. This was in recognition of biblical ranking.

You say, “Have you ever seen that done anywhere on earth?” Not very often because most Christians don’t have the stomach for it, and they will excuse themselves by pointing at you for being judgmental or lacking love. You know, the “loving” thing… If you wish to know the biblical loving thing, it is DO NOT WINK AT SIN/HERESY. The loving thing is not to sweep heresy under the rug. That’s the cowardly way. That’s the ‘chicken’ stuff, which is able to destroy the church of Christ.

Only then can the elders protect the body of Christ against rumor mongering and false reports! If the elders don’t expose the heresy/sin, they will lose the trust and confidence of the fellowship. People will perhaps even leave the church. When an elder sins, even if he is repentant, he must be removed as an elder (temporarily if it is a minor infraction, or permanently if it is heresy or moral/legal etc. problem), and it must be explained to the fellowship. There needs to be censure, reproof and exposure. Situations like this must be handled wisely by the other elders. This is the best thing for the church and for the elder who sinned!

THIRD: Recognize the Value of Fear. 1 Timothy 5:20

In both Deuteronomy 19:15-20 and 1 Timothy 5:20 accurate correction and discipline brings about holy fear.

“Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all” [why?] “that the rest also may fear.” In other words, if the church has Christ’s courage to do that with one/some of their elders, what will they do with you if you get into the same lifestyle of sin or heresy? If they will deal with those on the highest level of leadership, they will also be willing to deal with anyone else in the body as well. So, there is a positive value to fear when it comes to church discipline. Then #4:

FOURTH: Do Everything without prejudice or partiality.

1Ti 5:21  I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and the elect angels that you observe these things without prejudice, doing nothing according to partiality.

I think Paul recognized that we have a tendency to be partial and to act with prejudice. And so, he says in verse 21, “I solemnly charge you…” [this is a solemn process].

  1. i) before God, 
  2. ii) the Lord Jesus Christ, and 
  3. iii) the elect angels [that is, the saints]

that you observe these things [how Paul?]

  1. i) without prejudice,(prejudging) 
  2. ii) doing nothing with partiality (favouritism)

The goal of church discipline, then, is not to throw people out of the church or to feed the self-righteous pride of those who administer the discipline. It is not to embarrass people or to exercise authority and power in some unbiblical manner. The purpose is to restore a sinning believer/elder to holiness and bring him back into a pure relationship within the body. The purpose is to gain our brother, if he is repentant.

Why this variation with elders? Because, the council of elders guard against one another and chances are very high, by the time anyone realizes the heresy, other elders could have taken it up. Where the matter is differences in relationship with another brother/sister, revert to the lay-person model in Matthew 18. If they don’t repent, then you appeal to witnesses, some of whom should be church elders (1 Tim 5:19), and then you publicly rebuke them (Deu 19:15-20), then tragically, there is possible excommunication, expulsion and disassociation with them/him.

Still, even if we have to turn them out of the fellowship, we must love them.  We still admonish them. We still pray that God would bring repentance into their heart and into their life.

Are there cases or those matters that cannot be restored?

Yes, scripture clearly instructs us that there are matters that can be repented and the sinner is accepted back to the body, while there are others that are not restorable, and that restoring such a one would violate the scriptures.

In 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 Paul deals with a situation of receiving one who had been living in sin, repented and has asked to be restored to the church. Juxtaposed against 1Corinthians 5:1-5 where a young man was having sex with his stepmother, and the church was just letting him sin and stay a part of the church, then Paul had to say, “Kick him out.” They kicked him out. In 2 Corinthians 2:5-11, he may have come back and said, “You’re right church. I’m wrong. I repent.” And they said, “We aren’t going to let you back in.” Paul, in essence, basically says, “What?! You swing from one extreme to the other. If he’s in habitual, unrepentant sinning folk, he needs to be removed. If, however, he repents and demonstrates that he has repented, then let him back in, forgive him, and restore him.” So Paul is responding in 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 to the same situation in 1 Corinthians 5:1-7, and we can learn immensely from these two opposite experiences, as a church, on matters of discipline and restoration.

1Co 5:1  Everywhere it is heard that fornication is among you, and such fornication which is not named among the heathen, so as for one to have his father’s wife.
1Co 5:2  And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that did this deed might be taken from your midst.
1Co 5:3  For as being absent in body, but being present in spirit, I have already judged the one who has worked out this thing, as if I were present:
1Co 5:4  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, you being gathered together with my spirit also, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1Co 5:5  to deliver such a one to Satan for destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1Co 5:6  Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7  Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

2Co 2:5  But if anyone has grieved, he has not grieved me, but from in part, that I not overbear all of you.
2Co 2:6  This censure by the majority is enough for such a one.
2Co 2:7  So that on the contrary, you should rather forgive and comfort such a one, that he not be swallowed up by the overflowing grief.
2Co 2:8  So I beseech you to confirm your love to him.
2Co 2:9  For to this end I also wrote, that I might know the proof of you, if you are obedient in all things.
2Co 2:10  But to whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For also if I have forgiven anything, of whom I have forgiven it, it is for you, in Christ’s person,
2Co 2:11  so that we should not be overreached by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his devices.

However, there is a point where there is no redemption in this life as per instructions from Hebrews 6:4-6. There is a difference between those who have put Christ to an open shame as opposed to the Corinthian fornicator, whose spirit can yet be saved “in the day of the Lord Jesus.” Here are stern instructions given to the church on the irredeemable cases.

Heb 6:4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Heb 6:7  For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
Heb 6:8  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

The above verses have always been confused with a sinning or backsliding believer. Hebrews 6:4-8 does not describe the Corinthian fornicator type of sinner, who could repent and be forgiven and restored to the body. As we shall shortly see, this portion of scripture addresses those who have “fallen away” and not those who have fallen. There is a difference.

The main word is impossible. The writer to the Hebrews is not saying it is just difficult, but truly without possibility.

Here are other uses of impossible in Hebrews: It is impossible for God to lie (Heb 6:18). It is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats can take away sin (Heb 10:4). Without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:6). These impossible verses are biblically not reversible. Hebrews 6:4 is in the same family of irreversible declarations. There is no possibility to restore one who has fallen away.

Those being described cannot be an ordinary brother/sister struggling with sin. They fit the description of elders and matured brothers and sisters, “Who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come.” This is very impressive, and a novice does not fit. The last portion, “…. and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come” is the confirmation that this has to do with the doctrine of Christ and not any other sin.

From all human observation, we must say these are mature believers spoken of in Hebrews 6:4-5, who have pressed on past elementary oracles of Christ towards perfection (maturity) – Heb 6:1-3.

The phrase “If they fall away”: There is a great difference between “falling” and “falling away”. Falling away isn’t just falling into some sin. It is actually departing from Jesus Himself, from His doctrine. It is straying from His doctrine and recanting that which will never pass away. Falling away is more than just sinning. For a righteous man may fall seven times and rise again, but the wicked shall fall by calamity (Pro 24:16). The difference is between being a Peter and a Judas. If you depart from Jesus (the word of God, (Revelation 19) there is no hope!

Rev 19:11  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12  His eyes were< as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

In Hebrews 6:7-8 we are candidly told the serious consequences of “falling away” or what the epistle to Titus calls becoming a “heretic”. We covered that earlier. These are the tragic consequences;

Heb 6:7-8 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

If ground that is blessed by rain refuses to bear fruit, then who can blame the farmer for burning it? The picture presented reminds us that growth and bearing fruit is important to keep from falling away. We really bear fruit by abiding in Jesus (Joh 15:5) and cannot be in any danger of falling away. Once we fall away, there can be no restoration. Remember, abiding in Christ is being in accurate doctrine as we saw in Revelation 19 (His name is The Word of God). Note the three words are in capital letters.

Joh 15:4  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 
Joh 15:5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without [outside of me] me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

That, my brothers and sisters, is how we are to entreat those God has placed as elders over us. We shall be continuing with this topic when the Lord provides more materials and opportunity.

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Studies In Psalms – Psa 101:1-8 A Far More Exceeding and Eternal Weight of Glory https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/studies-in-psalms-psa-1011-8-a-far-more-exceeding-and-eternal-weight-of-glory/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=studies-in-psalms-psa-1011-8-a-far-more-exceeding-and-eternal-weight-of-glory Wed, 03 Jan 2018 20:46:18 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=15300 Psa 101:1-8 “A far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory.”

Psa 101:1   A Psalm of David. I will sing of mercy and judgment: unto thee, O LORD, will I sing. 
Psa 101:2  I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.
Psa 101:3  I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Psa 101:4  A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person.
Psa 101:5  Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer. 
Psa 101:6  Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell with me: he that walketh in a perfect way, he shall serve me. 
Psa 101:7  He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight. 
Psa 101:8  I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD.

All things are for our sakes (2Co 4:15-17) including the increase of late that God has given in the recent blessing of a wedding and another one that will soon take place. These blessings in the physical help us see and understand how increase is given and manifested through the body of Christ (1Co 3:6) as two become one in the spiritual, whether that is between a husband and wife or as we become one in our own heavens with our bridegroom, Jesus Christ (Mat 25:6). That oneness is reflected in the strength which God gives us to be able to do all things decently and in order within the church (1Co 14:40), and that order is shown in marriage as well as in the way Christ loves the church (Eph 5:23-27).

In this week’s study we will look again at the mystery of faith or mystery of godliness, as it is also called (1Ti 1:19, 1Ti 3:16), which we share together and that God is forming through Christ’s bride as we partake of this communion of suffering together (1Co 10:16), enduring  the cross which we are called to bear by way of the author and finisher of our faith Jesus Christ (Mat 16:24, Rev 19:7, Heb 12:2).

The washing of water by the word is what is required to see the bride made ready (Rev 19:7), and that process is stated in this Psalm with these words found in verse eight: “I will early destroy [the quick work of God] all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD.” When we overcome those things in our land in which God allows to live, we will be nourished by those giants (Num 14:9) and be given the strength through the grace and faith also given to us (Eph 2:8) to enter into the kingdom where nothing shall be found in it that defiles it (Rev 21:27).

God has called his children to hear the cry made at midnight: “behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him”, and to trim our lamps which is symbolic of destroying the wicked of the land, those impurities in our life that are preventing the light of Christ from burning brightly and purely in our heavens (Mat 25:6-7).

To not be able to see and follow through with these commandments of the Lord (being a hearer as well as a doer of the word) is akin to not clearly hearing the trumpet to fight a good fight of faith, or to put on the whole suit of armour, or to do a whole host of other things that are not possible to do without Christ giving us the victory to do so. Therefore boasting is excluded for the body of Christ because of the faith being given to us to overcome (Rom 8:35-37, Rom 3:27).

Even these two things are accomplished by all ten virgins of (Mat 25:7) who hear “the cry made at midnight” and all arise and all trim their lamps; and so we are reminded that it truly is a gift of God to have that extra oil symbolic of God’s holy spirit to light our way in this dark world as He helps us discern the narrow way of escape that He has set before His children (1Pe 4:18, 1Co 10:13, Mat 7:14).

In this study, I hope to show the inward application of God’s judgment upon our first man Adam as described in the first seven verses, both in what it is and what it should be doing to us as the bride of Christ, and how it all points to verse eight which tells us the blessing that this judgment produces in those with whom God is working in this age: “I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD.”

When we hold fast the mystery of the faith by proving all things, the mystery of godliness will be revealed; and that is the blessing that unto which God has called us, to “Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near.”

Psa 101:8  I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD.

Isa 26:9  With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Isa 55:6  Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7  Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8  For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

There is spiritual fruit that is born out of the ground of understanding the headship of Christ in our life, and that knowledge helps us possess our souls and bring peace that passes all understanding as we prove all things and continue on holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience (1Ti 3:9-10). It is that order that the world is missing and that Babylon cannot obtain because faith has not been given to them to do today what is being given to the spiritual Israel of God.

Rom 9:32  Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Gal 6:16  And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

As we mentioned in a previous study, knowing how the headship of God’s plan works is the means to how we can hold the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience as described in these verses; and it is the ‘critical spiritual infrastructure’ so to speak, that allows for peace of mind even in this very dark and unsettled world in which we now live (Mat 12:39). God does ALL things decently and in order, and scripture emphasizes ALL things because in the end it is this order that ultimately witnesses to the ALL in ALL plan of God.

1Co 11:3  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 

Eph 5:23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
Eph 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 
Eph 5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27  That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28  So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29  For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30  For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 
Eph 5:31  For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32  This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 
Eph 5:33  Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

1Co 15:28  And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Psa 101:1   A Psalm of David. I will sing of mercyH2617 and judgment: unto thee, O LORD, will I sing.

The English word ‘mercy’ is translated from various Hebrew and Greek words and mentioned 276 times in the KJV. Strong’s number H2617 is used 249 of those times (according to KJC; BTSCTVM+ says it is used 247 times), and is first mentioned is in regard to Lot escaping the judgment of Sodom.

Gen 19:15  And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
Gen 19:16  And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful [H2551 pity/compassion] unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
Gen 19:17  And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
Gen 19:18  And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
Gen 19:19  Behold now, thy servant hath found grace [type of Eph 2:8] in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy [H2617  goodness/kindness/mercy], which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

Notice how this story is connected to judgment and to grace and faith as the angels hasten Lot, saying “arise, take thy wife [your faith, your church, your body], and thy two daughters [the witness of Christ needed to accomplish this coming out of Babylon]”, and the miracle of God dragging Lot outside the camp, outside the city where we are all commanded to go, and “escape to the mountain [Christ – Psa 121:1], lest thou be consumed” (Heb 13:13). We escape Sodom and Egypt by dying daily (1Co 15:31) or symbolically lying dead in that great city that is spiritually called Sodom where we lay dead for three days (Rev 11:8, Rev 11:11).

“I [We] sing of mercy and judgment unto thee O LORD will I [we] sing”, because we know that this victory over our flesh is supernatural and one that requires the miracle of grace and faith as Christ works in us both to will and to do of our Fathers good pleasure (Php_2:13).

Psa 101:2  I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.

It would not have been wise for Lot to resist the angel of the Lord in this story we just read, and yet, as we know, our flesh does not die easily, and with these following verses (Gen 18:20-32 an entreatable two way conversation for our learning between Abraham a type of Christ in us seeking the will of God in this story as he commits the worldly concerns around him unto God), we are reminded that it is for His name’s sake, or but for the grace of God, or for His righteousness working within his people, that regardless of our initial resistance to go into that narrow way which is Christ, God does show great mercy toward us to let grace abound toward those sons and daughters whom He is receiving through much tribulation or through chastening and scourging in this age, which is symbolized by the destruction of those very cities from which Lot has been dragged (2Co 9:8, Rom 6:1, Heb 12:6-7, Php 4:13, Joh 6:44).

No one’s heart is perfect before the Lord, and the scripture says we deceive ourselves if we think otherwise (Rom 3:10), so what the Psalmist is telling us here is not that he is wise of himself or that he is perfect of himself but rather that we ought to walk with an entreatable heart, a heart that is like a child’s heart, easy to be instructed and given correction when it is needed (Mat 18:3). That correction comes when we are fighting a good fight of faith and trimming our lamps and pressing toward the prize of the mark of the high calling in Him, that is when the Lord “come[s] unto me” when I “walk within my house”, the temple of God, the body, Christ the church, “with a perfect heart”. That good fight of faith will have us staying in the light and being cleansed by the hope of glory within us.

1Jn 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Php 3:14  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15  Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Php 3:16  Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

1Jn 3:3  And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

It is interesting to note that Strong’s numbers H8549 and H1870 translated into english as “perfect way” is mentioned in 13 verses in the old testament, and shows us brightly WHO’s ways are perfect, and as 2Sa 22:33  puts it so perfectly, HE makes my way perfect:

Deu 32:4  He is the Rock his work is perfectH8549: for all his waysH1870 are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

2Sa 22:31  As for God, his wayH1870 is perfectH8549; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.

2Sa 22:33  God is my strength and power: and he maketh my wayH1870 perfectH8549

Psa 18:30  As for God his wayH1870 is perfectH8549: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.

Psa 18:32  It is God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my wayH1870 perfectH8549.

Psa 101:2  I will behave myself wisely in a perfectH8549 wayH1870. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.

Psa 101:6  Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell with me: he that walketh in a perfectH8549 wayH1870, he shall serve me.

Psa 119:1  ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiledH8549 in the wayH1870, who walk in the law of the LORD.

Pro 11:5  The righteousness of the perfectH8549 shall direct his wayH1870: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness.

Pro 11:20  They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are uprightH8549 in their wayH1870 are his delight.

Pro 28:10  Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil wayH1870, he shall fall himself into his own pit: but the uprightH8549 shall have good things in possession.

Pro 28:18  Whoso walketh uprightlyH8549 shall be saved: but he that is perverse in his waysH1870 shall fall at once.

Eze 28:15  Thou wast perfectH8549 in thy waysH1870 from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. [To understand that we did not ‘fall’ nor were we created perfect, read the whole chapter of Eze 28 and this study by Mike: http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/up-and-down-among-the-stones-of-fire/]

Psa 101:3  I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

We’re going to fall seven complete symbolic times (Pro 24:16-18, Rom 11:20) in this age of ours, and learn to abide in the fire [God’s word], and, God willing, we will always “hate the work of them that turn aside” and not let it “cleave to me [us].”

Who is it then who is being cleansed in this age so that we “set no wicked thing before mine eyes”, but those whom God is dragging to Christ because we don’t naturally want to go toward a light that is going to judge us, and yet if we are blessed to be among those who are judged in this age and shown God’s goodness which leads us unto repentance, we will see these verses of Isaiah being fulfilled in our life day to day.

Joh 6:44  No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Rom 2:4  Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

Isa 33:14  The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Isa 33:15  He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
Isa 33:16  He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.

Sadly, there are those who have left our fellowship and declared that they are not the sinners in Zion who are afraid, nor have a fear of God, which in their minds is an unhealthy way to walk through this life. God is showing us that this is the highmindedness of that we must guard against and not let it “cleave to me”. All have sinned and were all in sinful flesh, and it is better to find out that we are ‘the man’ today (2Sa 12:7), the sinner in Zion who has been blessed to be “surprised” by our hypocritical flesh. We must live these words as well and not put them off on someone else: “The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites.” We must not say “I’m not afraid. I have liberty in Christ. I can do what I want when I want.” That, of course, is a lascivious spirit that denies “the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ”.

Rom 11:20  Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Jud 1:4  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Psa 101:4  A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person.

This verse points once again to Isaiah chapter 33 and reminds us that unless we are in that fire, these sins which are in the flesh of all men will cleave unto us and manifest in our hearts.

This is some of what God’s word says about a froward heart:

H6141    ‛iqqêsh    ik-kashe’

From H6140; distorted; hence false: – crooked, froward, perverse.

Pro_11:20  They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.

Pro_17:20  He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief.

Psa_18:26  With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.

Psa 18:26 is really only one of God’s many ways with which He will answer a fool according to their folly (Pro 26:4) and why we want to keep ourselves pure and unspotted in this age visiting the fatherless and widow in their affliction (Jas 1:27).

Psa 101:5  Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer. 

Nothing is hidden from the Almighty, and we know that he hears and causes our every thought, so if we are slandering our neighbour and thinking we can do this in secret (privily), God has allowed us to deceive ourselves; and if He is working with us in this age, He will destroy that part of our life that is defiling the temple of God within us.

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

1Co 3:17  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 3:18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

Ecc 10:20  Curse not the king, no not in thy thought; and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber: for a bird of the air shall carry the voice, and that which hath wings shall tell the matter.

This section of scripture, like all scripture, is written for God’s elect, and we are being admonished to know that God is 24/7 on the job and will deal with “an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer”.

Psa 101:6  Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell with me: he that walketh in a perfect way, he shall serve me.

Verse six is a great reminder to us to look to the Lord in one another and follow each other as we follow Christ.

1Co 11:1  Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

It is when we walk in that “perfect way” which we discussed earlier, as walking in the light of God’s word that cleanses us of all iniquity and is the true fellowship of the spirit that we should want for one another. When we are blessed to walk in the truth of His word, we will be in that faithful land raised together in heavenly places (Joh 8:21-32, Joh 14:15, Joh 15:10, Joh 14:23).

1Jn 1:7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Eph 2:6  And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Psa 101:7  He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight. 

Deceitfulness is found in Babylon, the little leaven of the pharisees which can leaven the whole lump of Christ’s body and choke the word of God (Gal 5:9), and so we are admonished not think above what is written (1Co 4:6) and to prove all things and hold fast to what is true (1Th 5:21) and to fight a good fight of faith (1Ti 6:12), so that we can be always ready to do battle against those spirits which God sends our way to strengthen us, and that we can be reminded that the gates of hell will not prevail against His church (Eph 6:13, Jer 29:13, Exo 15:26, Mat 16:18).

Mat 13:22  He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

Mar 4:19  And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

Heb 3:13  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

If we are being baptized into His death every day as we die daily (Rom 6:3), we will be able to become rich toward God and lay up treasure in heaven as opposed to being that house in which we once were “full of deceit” believing that gain is godliness (Eph 2:1-2, 1Ti 6:5). It is God’s undefiled word which quickens us and enables us to keep the diseases of Egypt away from the house of God, and God is admonishing us in these verses that deceit will not dwell within His house or tarry in His sight, not for long if he is working in that person’s life (Ecc 8:11, 1Co 5:4-6).

Isa 53:9  And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Jer 5:27  As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

It is the deceitfulness of the supposed riches of Babylon, the leaven of the Pharisees, against which Christ warns us along with covetousness, and the rich young ruler has them both and cannot relinquish them yet.

Mat 16:6  Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Luk 12:15  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

Mat 19:21  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
Mat 19:22  But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

The true riches are not seen and understood by the churches of this world, and that is why God says we are so incredibly blessed in this age to have our eyes and ears open to what is the true gospel, the pearl of great price, that will one day save all mankind (Luk 10:20, Mat 13:46, Col 1:27).

Psa 101:8  I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD. 

Our last verse of this study simply shows us again the means by which God is going to bless His people in this age by “destroy[ing] all the wicked of the land” and “cut[ing] off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD” within.

1Co 3:17  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 3:18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1Co 3:19  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Co 3:20  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
1Co 3:21  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

The “city of the Lord” is Jerusalem above, the mother of us all, and God is going to finish this heavenly work within each member and build the temple of God that is being built without hands (Act 7:48, 1Ki 6:7).

That workmanship of God, the building of that temple without hands, will require affliction, but, as the rest of these verses show, after we endure that light affliction, after we bear each other’s burdens through this very temporal life, there will be “a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory” awaiting us in the blessed and holy first resurrection (Rev 20:6, Rev 4:8, Act 20:35)

2Co 4:14  Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.
2Co 4:15  For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.
2Co 4:16  For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
2Co 4:17  For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
2Co 4:18  While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

I would like to end this study with some verses that explain what that “far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory” is, and why we should encourage each other to keep pressing toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus (Php 3:14):

Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 4:8  And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Act 20:35  I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

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Grace and Peace Tour – Part 3 https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/grace-and-peace-tour-part-3/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=grace-and-peace-tour-part-3 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 23:57:10 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=11861 Grace and Peace Tour – Part 3

Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Last week we ended the review of our tour as we were about to leave Perth, Western Australia, for Bahrain. We were going there to meet with our beloved brother and sister in Christ, Ron and Mae Pasaporte. What an experience lay ahead of us there in Bahrain! Ron and Mae live in Saudi Arabia, but because of the oppression of sharia in that country, Ron decided to meet with us in Bahrain, a far more ‘moderate’ little island nation just off the coast of Saudi Arabia. There is a man-made causeway from Saudi Arabia to Bahrain, and the poor repressed Saudi’s use Bahrain as their Las Vegas of the middle east to get away from the restrictions of sharia on the weekends.

Bahrain’s population is mostly in the northern half of the island, and that is where Ron and Mae met us at the airport in his car and took us to our hotel. Ron had rented a suite on the fourteenth floor which was large enough to accommodate his family and Sandi and me. We arrived on Friday afternoon, at the end of the Muslim Sabbath. It was an incredible night of festivities, and we listened to blaring horns and motorcycles revving their engines until at least 2 A.M. We were on the 14th floor, but the sound came right up to us. Saudis like to party after a long Sabbath day.

The next couple of days were all planned out by Ron and Mae, and it was both exciting and educational for us. Our first day Ron and Mae took us to the state museum where we learned about the history of the island, which long ago was known as the kingdom of Dilum.

The next day Ron took us through every part of the city you can imagine. We spent time in the Gold Suhk, a huge complex of many gold vendors, who were selling gold watches, gold necklaces, gold bracelets, earrings, rings, etc. I have never seen so much gold in one place in my life. We went from there on a tour of the spice markets, the produce markets, and the garment and fabric markets. There were so many vendors with so many colors of fabrics. There were gowns and blouses of every color, yet you seldom saw women in public wearing anything but black. Most all women, even in ‘liberal’ Bahrain, cover their entire bodies, including their faces. I saw many who even covered their eyes with a veil.

The restriction of sharia on society was something we had not experienced anywhere else in the world. Ron drove us through the extremely narrow streets where we actually had to back up to let some cars go by. But in spite of the crowded conditions people seemed to get along with each other. None of us speak Arabic, and there was really very little opportunity for interaction with the people of Bahrain.

One afternoon we ate at a native family restaurant. It was quite an experience. Only men were allowed to dine on the main lower floor. Women and families had to enter the restaurant by a side alley and go upstairs. Each family had a little semi-private room in which to dine, and the guests were free to pick a room with a table and benches, or they could eat seated on the floor. The family in the room adjacent to ours, were seated on the floor with their legs crossed and the food was on plastic sheets in the middle of the little room. Ron picked for us a room with a table with benches on each side. The table was covered with thin transparent plastic, and the food was served on plates which we all shared. It was a very good dining experience for which Sandi and I were most grateful.

It seemed that everywhere we ate, Ron discovered that those who were serving us were Filipinos. The girls who worked at the hotel restaurant were from the Philippines as well, and it was good to have a host who always seemed to have an in with those who were serving us our meals.

One day Ron took us out to see the camel ranch belonging to the prince who was the son of the ruler of Bahrain. We were privileged to get to pet the camels. Our guide took us across the wide facility to where there was a baby camel which we were free to pet. Then he gave us some hay to feed the mother camel and all the camels in the adjacent lot. Eventually we went back to the entrance where we found that we had missed the deadline for being given complimentary fresh camel’s milk. Even though we had missed the deadline to even be there, much less get some complimentary camel’s milk, Ron talked the guards into letting us take the tour, and then he talked them into going into the cooler and getting us some camel’s milk. Camel’s milk tastes like cow’s milk to me.

I think it was the day before we had to fly out of Bahrain to Nairobi that Ron had arranged for us to tour the largest Mosque in Bahrain. What an experience that was, to enter such a huge facility and to know just how opposed to the Christ of the New Testament were these people. Before we could begin our tour, our wives were required to don black robes and to cover their heads. Ron and I could have worn the white robes Muslim men are required to wear, but it was not required of us, and we did not do so. Our tour guide was a very well-read Egyptian Muslim woman who appeared to be in her fifties. She spoke American English fluently, and we found out later, she is married to an American. I am always struck by the frankness with which so many Muslims speak and answer your questions. There is little or no political correctness within that community. They let you know up front that they think Christians are hypocritical, corrupt idol worshipers who must be converted to Islam.

Our guide made it very clear that being faithful to pray and going to the Mosque on a regular basis would give one more “points” with Allah, to use her own words. This lady went out of her way to attack the doctrine of the trinity right from the beginning of her ‘tour’ which seemed more like an attempt to convert her guests than a mere tour of the mosque. She was completely nonplussed and puzzled when I agreed with her that the doctrine of the trinity was heresy.

Since she had solicited questions from her audience, I had to ask a couple of questions I have always wondered about. My first question was, “If Christ were born of a virgin, as Islam concedes, how could Mohamed be placed above a prophet who was conceived of the holy spirit?” She had a ready answer, which is always the case when speaking with heretics. Her answer was that both Adam and Christ were without a physical father, and that Christ was conceived of a virgin but, according to Mohamed, Christ was not the Son of God, and Christ was not raised from the dead. This is definitely what the apostle Paul called “another Jesus”, and this is what Paul warns us about such a doctrine:

2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

But that was exactly what happened while the apostles were yet alive:

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

At the very mention of the name of the apostle Paul, our guide made it very clear, and these are her words, “We Muslims hate the apostle Paul.” The truth is that many Christians also hate the apostle Paul because he was the apostle the holy spirit inspired to deal with so many different subjects, one of which is the abomination of homosexuality (Rom 1:26-27). Because Paul was faithful to the mind of Christ on that most basic subject, he is hated of many Christians. Though the Muslims agree with Paul on that subject, when I asked our host why they hate Paul she retorted, “Because Paul did away with the law.” I had no interest in casting Christ’s pearls before swine, so I did not attempt to explain that “the law of the spirit” raised the bar far above the law of Moses, by which Muslims live and call it sharia, which is simply Arabic for ‘law’.

Our last day with Ron and Mae was the day we put our luggage into their car and traveled to the southern tip of the Island of Bahrain, past much barren landscape dotted with many oil wells, to see one lone tree atop a small hill, which is the highest point in that area. This tree is said to be over four hundred years old, and it is called ‘the tree of life’. After taking our pictures there at the ‘tree of life’, we went down to the district with the most exclusive homes on the island, only to be denied entry. But it was meant to be because we had just enough time to get to the airport to catch our flight out of Bahrain and down to Nairobi. At the airport we had a pizza dinner with the Pasaporte family and enjoyed a few minutes of fellowship before having to say goodbye to our brother and sister who had given us the time of our life in Bahrain. Thank you, Ron and Mae! “As you have done it unto one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it unto Me” (Mat 25:40).

Our flight to Nairobi was at night, and we got very little sleep, but seeing our brother George Mwaboli and his wife Judith and their family the next morning was very invigorating. What an incredible blessing it was to meet Jesus of Nazareth in Nairobi, Kenya! We took a taxi to our hotel where we made arrangements to get a shower and a nap before meeting George and Judith and their two boys and their little girl for lunch.

While waiting in the lobby for George and Judith, Sandi was browsing the hotel’s tiny gift shop. I had sat down in the lobby when a lady asked me if she was hearing an American accent from me and Sandi. I said, yes, and she asked me what brought us to Kenya. I told her of our internet ministry and our friends who were coming to have lunch with us. She asked me what I thought of Kenya, and I told her we had just arrived but that I was looking forward to trying some of the Kenyan mangoes I had seen on trees and in the markets as we were coming to the hotel. She told me she had to keep an appointment, but she would be back later in the afternoon with some mangoes. Sandi had finished her browsing, and I introduced her to ‘Mary’, who gave us her name at that moment. I really did not expect to ever see this woman again.

Shortly after Mary left, George and Judith arrived for lunch. We had a wonderful time of fellowship, and then we all went up to our room to continue our fellowship. I was sharing some very meaty doctrines with our brother George and with Judith, when the hotel desk called telling me we had a guest waiting in the lobby. Lo and behold, the woman I thought we would never see again was there in the lobby with a bag full of large Kenyan mangoes. I invited her up to our room where I told her we were discussing some very deep spiritual principles and doctrines. To make this story a little shorter, we simply continued our discussion, and Mary was given a witness of the mercy and of the judgments of God which will bring all men to repentance “though as by fire” (1Co 3:15).

As dinner time approached we all went down and ate on the outside tables of the restaurant with George and Judith and Mary. After dinner Mary had to leave, but she assured us she would be back the next day. George and I agreed to meet for lunch the next day, and Sandi and I returned to our room for some much needed rest.

The next day George and Judith returned at lunch time as we had agreed. While we were eating lunch a sister with a big smile and a beaming personality came to our table and introduced herself as Priscilla Gikaru. Priscilla had just recently joined the body e-mail list, so at least I was familiar with her name, but what a blessing it was to meet another part of the body of Christ face to face. But there was another surprise for us in just a few more minutes. While we were fellowshipping with Priscilla and George and Judith, and enjoying a delicious lunch, our waitress came over and whispered something in George’s ear. Sandi, Judith, Priscilla and I continued our fellowship while George got up and went over to another table to talk to a man there. I just assumed it had to do with George’s work, but when George returned to our table, he told me that man he had talked with told him he had been reading the site for years and said the man had asked if he could join us. I think you know what was my answer to that question.

That was when we all got to meet Nicholas Ondari. He came over and introduced himself, and as we all got to know each other we all discovered that Nicholas was the cofounder of a very large church in Nairobi, and to the surprise of us all, it was the very same church Priscilla had attended before the Lord called her out of Babylon. Nicholas and Priscilla had never met each other, but they discovered they had many mutual acquaintances in that church. God had ordained that they would not meet each other until that very day. Nicholas had come to realize the corruption that is Babylon, and when he had spoken out about it, he soon found himself on the outside, but many people had come out of that church with him. In time, as Nicholas began to see and teach more of the truths of scripture, his little group became smaller and smaller until there were only 12-15 people who were still coming together to get to know the mind of God.

It was a very encouraging blessing to discover there really are others who are out there in the world with whom the holy spirit is working a great work though we may know nothing of what the Lord is doing. This whole story was to be repeated in and through another brother we had never met or heard of in Ghana just about a month later. But I am getting ahead of myself.

After our lunch, Nicholas and Priscilla had to leave us. We had eaten a late lunch and our fellowship had lasted until the restaurant was gearing up for dinner. Sandi and I had to leave for Nairobi the next morning so we said our goodbyes to Nicholas and Priscilla, and spent another half hour in our room with George and Judith before saying goodbye to them. Just as we were settling in for the night we got another call from the hotel desk telling us a woman named Mary was asking for us. It was a great pleasure being with Mary and hearing her story. She had been listening closely earlier because her question to me was did I think that the crushing she had already endured was enough to be considered the ‘fiery trials’ Peter spoke of (1Pe 4:12). I told her the trials she had already endured were indeed part of the fiery trials Peter spoke of but that our trials do not come to an end in this age, or Christ would not have said “He that endures to the end shall be saved” (Mat 10:22). Mary gave us her phone number as she had no other means of contact not having a computer. Sandi passed that number on to George, and I am happy to report that I got an e-mail from George informing me and Sandi that he was in touch with Mary, and they intend to continue fellowshipping. Keep these, your own body, in your prayers.

The next morning we said goodbye to Kenya and flew down to Johannesburg, South Africa, where we were met at the airport by Benson Murithi, who took us to his home where we spent the next three days. Benson and his wife Susan and their little son Harman were our hosts. Later that day we were joined by Desre Heunis, who drove four hours to be with us. We were also joined by Mcebisi Tugana and Thobile Leeu. Our first days was spent sharing each others’ stories and the struggles we all endured being dragged to Christ. The details differ greatly, but truly “there is one event to all” (Ecc 9:2).

The following day Benson and Susan took us to a large mall where Susan had a store. She then guided us to a steakhouse in the mall where we had a very memorable meal. We returned to Benson’s home where we were later treated to a traditional South African meal prepared by Susan.

Desre and Benson, Mcebisi and Thobile all traded contact information with each other before Benson took us to the airport the next morning to catch our flight to Capetown to spend the next three weeks with Pete and Ronel, in Franschhoek, an hour north of Johannesburg . Larry and Lyndell came up on the weekends, and we had the time of our lives being entertained by and singing with Larry and Lyndell.

We were met at the Cape Town Airport by Pete, Larry and Lyndell. What an incredible blessing to see Larry and Lyndell again for the first time since our conference in Alcester, England in, I think it was 2012. We were to be blessed in their presence several times while staying with Pete and Ronel. Sandi and I are grateful to Pete and Ronel for making our time in South Africa a blessing beyond our wildest dreams. I cannot spend a lot of time on all the places we went to, all the unique experiences we were afforded by Ronel’s connections and her winning personality at the many wineries and olive oil processing plants we visited, as well as the many unique outlets and unique stores and restaurants Ronel took us to see and experience.

I will mention just a few of those experiences, and then I want to concentrate on the people we were granted to meet and to whom we were sent as the ambassadors of Christ to this world:

2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

On one occasion Ronel took us to see the largest winery south of the equator. I cannot imagine a larger one. It was massive, but then there are many thousands of acres of grapes in the south cape of Africa. Right next to this huge complex was an olive oil pressing facility. Though it was late and past time for tours of this facility, Ronel was able to get the people who were in charge to let us see how the olives were pressed and processed. It was but one of many such blessings for which Sandi and I will always be grateful.

One of the most enjoyable things from my perspective were the hikes Pete and I took. We hiked to the top of the ridge of the mountains seen outside Pete’s back door. We foolishly phoned our wives who stayed home and asked them to come out and see if they could see us. We later realized what an impossibility that would have been at that distance without a very good set of binoculars.

We spent time in a resort town called Hermanus, on our way down to a wildlife refuge. Pete and Ronel has spent some time in Hermanus while looking for a home and while waiting for their belongings to arrive via boat from the U.S. Pete was familiar with the hiking trails around Hermanus, and he took me up to the dams in the mountains above Hermanus. These were the source of the water for that town, and it seemed impossible that so much water can come out of mountains that are basically solid rock, but there they were, three dams in a single gorge. We climbed down the interior part of the first dam to see more clearly where a side stream was coming from. From the top of the dam the water appeared to be coming right out of the side of a solid rock cliff, and as close as we were able to get, it still appeared that way. We went on up to the next dam before returning home with a bouquet of the many different brightly colored flowers for our wives.

The next day we drove south to the game reserve where Pete and Ronel had rented little round cabins with thatched roofs with air conditioning and all the modern comforts of life. Our cottages were on a hillside behind the main complex which housed the bar and the restaurant where all the guests were fed at an all-you-can-eat buffet where you could got your steak, pork, lamb, and other more exotic meats, like wild hog and ostrich meat, cooked to order. We got up early in the morning for breakfast, followed by a tour of the several thousand-acre game reserve where high electrically reinforced fences kept the lions and elephants away from the many antelope, water buffalo and giraffes. We saw rhinos, hippos and cheetahs very close up. God has made some incredible beasts!

The final and most exciting time of all at the game preserve was when we were taken by the man who cares for the elephants to the barn in which the elephants willingly came to spend each night. It was here that we got to feed the elephants who would let us put a double handful of hay in pellet form in the end of the elephant’s trunk. It amazed me how wide the end of an elephant’s trunk is. It must be about eight inches (20.32 centimeters). An elephant’s trunk has literally thousands of muscles and can expand and contract to the extent that it serves as both arms and hands for the elephant. Again, one has to wonder what the poor elephants did for millions of years while they were waiting for their trunks to develop all those thousands of muscles? I speak as a very foolish man.

Larry and Lyndell took us on a tour of the environs of Capetown. We had lunch at a Malay restaurant, then we took a trip up to the top of Signal Hill to see the views of Table Mountain and Lion’s Head mountain and the ocean, and then we went down the mountain and along the seacoast.

After a day of such sensory fulfillment we returned home to Pete and Ronel’s in time to join in on Cameron’s Saturday morning fellowship call where we got to hear familiar voices of. Our heavenly Father blesses us beyond our ability to appreciate it, but I pray we are all asking to be given to offer to Him the sacrifice of thanksgiving, even in our trials:

Psa 107:22 And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing.

The second Sunday we were in Franschhoek, Pete and Ronel and Sandi and I went down to Cape Town where we met with Larry and Lyndell. We then followed Larry and Lyndell to the home of a lady who had contacted Larry just a couple of months earlier. She lived in a town which was right on the Atlantic Ocean, about an hour from Cape Town called Simon’s Town. This sister’s name is Karen Leigh. Karen has a teenage daughter named Suzanne. Suzanne helped Karen to feed us all a very big and delicious meal. Afterward we spent our time in fellowship. Karen was full of questions which we answered while we were there, but I am thankful our brother Larry is very well equipped to answer Karen’s future questions.

Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Eph 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Our last night in South Africa was spent at the home of Ronel’s daughter, Claudine. Claudine’s husband, Anton, was the braai expert and our steaks were cooked to order. Claudine’s daughter Chalo, who some of you met at the conference on Lake Lanier a couple of years back. Jeanine, Ronel’s other daughter was also there with her young daughters, so we were privileged to meet all of Ronel’s daughters, her sons-in-law, and her grandchildren. We had a wonderful time together and then returned to Franschhoek for our last night with Pete and Ronel.

The next morning Larry and Lyndell came to Pete’s with a wonderful Malay lunch for all of us. After lunch we asked an employee to take a group picture of all of us out in the front of the house where the word Franschhoek is spelled out on the mountain side with whitewashed rocks above our heads. Then we bid Pete and Ronel goodbye, and Larry and Lyndell took us to the airport on their way back to Cape Town. They waited with us until we had to go through security, and we said our final goodbyes, and caught our plane to Accra, Ghana, where we met another group of people we did not even know existed.

That is as far as we have time to go this week. I hope to share our most encouraging experience in Ghana with all of you next week, as well as our trip to New York to visit our son Austin and his wife, Katherine. Kat had a most interesting observation which she shared with me, and which I will share with you all next week. Lord willing.

From New York we flew down to Miami where we met up with our granddaughter, Alexa, of Buffalo Chicken Dip fame from the December conferences, and we took her with us down to Trinidad where Alexa was required by popular demand to make her internationally famous dip again, and where Sandi and I were treated with the most inspiring and moving words of appreciation just before we came back home.

Next week will be the end of our review of our God-given tour of the world. Lord willing, after next week we will resume our studies in the book of Isaiah.

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Seeking Fellowship in Fiji https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/seeking-fellowship-in-fiji/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=seeking-fellowship-in-fiji Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:00:00 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=4095

Mike,
Greetings and thank you from Suva, Fiji. Grateful if you could give me addresses (if any) of anyone from here that I could fellowship with. Thank you again and kind regards.
I____

Hi I____,

As far as I know, you are the first person to tell me of being from Fiji. It is wonderful to know that there are people in Fiji who are receiving “the things of the spirit”.
What I will do is to post your e- mail and invite anyone there in Fiji to contact me, so I can put them in touch with you. I do not put people’s email addresses on the site without their permission, and then it is expressly for the purpose of fellowship.
I hope you are taking advantage of our series in the book of Revelation which we are studying at this time. It would be wonderful to have you with us live on ustream at 11 A. M. Eastern Standard Time, in the United States. If you get on 15 minute early you will get in on the announcements and prayer requests. You can also fellowship with many others via the chat section of ustream, before and after the study. There is no charges involved. It is simply a matter of following the directions and promptings that are on the iswasandwillbe. com home page.
In the meantime I will be praying that God will soon provide you some local fellowship. God bless you, I____.
Your brother in Christ,
Mike

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Godly Love Restrains Division https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/godly-love-restrains-division/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=godly-love-restrains-division Mon, 17 May 2010 06:00:00 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=2660

Hi Mike,

I have read your article on What is Love over and over. Wonderful article! God is so wonderful to give you this great gift of understanding his word. I am planning, God willing, to go over this article Sunday with those at our bible study. I have one question in this part.

“Which brings us to the third ignored and despised section of God’s Words.

3) 1Co 5:1  It is reported commonly [ that there is] fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, hat one should have his father’s wife.
1Co 5:2  And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
1Co 5:3  For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
1Co 5:4  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1Co 5:5  To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1Co 5:6  Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7  Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:9  I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
1Co 5:10  Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
1Co 5:11  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

In the physical sense, what is Paul saying in 1Co 5:5 should happen to this guy who has done this deed? Your insight here would be appreciated. Thank you for putting God first in your life and sharing what God reveals to you.

YBIC,

G____

Hi G____,

I am so pleased that you are getting so much out of that e- mail. There are so very few who realize that love has more to do with obeying God than doing good to your neighbor. If one is obeying God, they will automatically be doing good to their neighbor!

The answer to your question will demonstrate that point. Paul is not saying that if that brother who had taken his father’s wife were to come into an inn where Paul was sitting and eating a meal, that he, Paul, would get up and leave the table. The phrase “eat with” does indeed include physically eating, but at the same time it included having fellowship with that person. That is why the disciples were confused when Christ said “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees”. They thought Christ was speaking of physical leaven only. So what Paul physically wanted that group of believers in Corinth to do was to ask that brother not to come to their fellowship until he repented of what he was doing. His presence in their midst gave the appearance of the church placing its stamp of approval upon his living arrangements with “his father’s wife”.

So the Corinthians did that very thing that Paul requested of them. They “put him out of their midst… and delivered that brother to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, and the spirit was saved in the day of the Lord Jesus”. The verses that commanded them to put the fornicator out of their fellowship, and the verses which show the affect of doing so are in your quote above.

The Corinthians “took this man away from among them.” In so doing, they “delivered him to Satan for the destruction of the flesh”, and “the spirit was saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

Here is how that happened.

2Co 2:1  But I determined this with myself, that I would not come again to you in heaviness.
2Co 2:2  For if I make you sorry, who is he then that maketh me glad, but the same which is made sorry by me? [The fornicator of 1Co 5]
2Co 2:3  And I wrote this same unto you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow from them of whom I ought to rejoice; having confidence in you all, that my joy is the joy of you all.
2Co 2:4  For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you.
2Co 2:5  But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all.
2Co 2:6  Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.
2Co 2:7  So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.
2Co 2:8  Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
2Co 2:9  For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.

“To this end did I write. that I might know… whether you are obedient in all things… written therein.” Paul is not speaking of obey him. He is speaking of being obedient to the commandments of God, which prohibit either physical or spiritual fornication within the body of Christ. It was their obedience to the commandments of God which let the Corinthians know “the love which Paul had more abundantly unto them.” It is painful to our natural man to be obedient to God.

2Co 2:4  For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you.

I hope this answers your question. We do not tolerate open and blatant sin in the midst of our fellowship. “A little leaven leavens the whole lump.” The same is true for heresies, which are spiritual idolatry and spiritual fornication and spiritual adultery.

2Jn 1:9  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11  For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Which words accord with Paul’s words in 1Co.

1Co 5:11  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Those who cannot receive God’s commandments are many, and those who are drawn from the breasts are very few. But those few tremble at God’s commandments like this one.

1Ti 5:20  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Paul did that with Peter, and if he had not, it would have been disastrous for both.

Gal 2:11  But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:12  For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
Gal 2:13  And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation [
Greek – hypocrisy].
Gal 2:14  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

There is but one Truth, and if we fail to confront heresy, it will “leaven the whole lump.” So we alway go to a multitude of counselors, and we always go to our brother himself.

Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16  But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Christians do not allow Hindus or Muslims to come and speak from their pulpit, and if these words were strictly followed, we would all be of the same mind and of the same spirit, as we are commanded to be.

2Co 13:11  Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
Php 2:2  Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, [being] of one accord, of one mind.

1Pe 3:8  Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

This is truly a piece of spiritual t-bone steak. All who obey these commandments are labeled as hard, cold- hearted tyrants. Even though the scriptures emphasize that “we have no dominion over your faith, those who adhere to the word of God and are faithful to and obey these commandments, are still called elitist, cold-hearted tyrants because they put obedience to God above what the natural man considers to be a loving action of tolerance. Those who place obedience over “tolerance and acceptance” are labeled “intolerant and exclusionists” simply because they refuse to compromise the commandments of of God’s words. I have heard both Benny Hinn and Paul Crouch blatantly say they wish they had a ‘holy ghost machine gun, with which to wipe out all the heresy hunters’.

I hope that makes clear what the Corinthians were expected to do physically with the fornicator that was among them, and I hope it helps you to see what we are commanded to do to remain of the same mind with Christ and not become just one more of the more than 30,000 differing and conflicting orthodox Christian denominations.

1Co 1:10  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Php 4:2  I beseech Euodias [we could say Catholics], and beseech Syntyche [or Protestants], that they be of the same mind in the Lord.

It is hard to stand with the Words of Christ in the face of opposition from the whole orthodox Christian world, but that is what is expected of those who will be the rulers of “the kingdoms of this world when they are made the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ”.

Rev 11:15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Your brother in Christ,

Mike

 

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Trying The Spirits 2010 https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/trying-the-spirits-2010/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=trying-the-spirits-2010 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:00:00 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=5111

Mike,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I do believe when a spirit has been tried, a brother does well to let his siblings know of what sort a spirit it is. Yes, I have met quite a few Preterists in the last few days, and I have been responding to their exchanges with what I know to be truth!
Mike, just like a physical family, I believe in a spiritual family. There are elder brothers, and younger brothers, and while I do “look up to you” as an elder brother, ultimately I look up to “CHRIST” in you. I assume that being elder or younger has nothing to do with age, I am sure that God can take a physically younger brother and exercise his senses without the passage of time, although I do believe age and wisdom work together. I do not think I have looked to you as “the authority” but I DO look to you as an ELDER and I would point out any heresy or question any teaching as I felt lead. I think Respect and Love would be the Christ- like way to handle that.
May I ask your insight on Facebook fellowship? Almost all of these new “Facebook Friends” requested that I be their friend, I feel that through this solicitation I should accept that as an invitation. I do not want to be guilty of a transgression by being in fellowship or breaking bread with the wrong crowd. Do I remember correctly that after the second admonition I should “wipe the dust off of my feet” and no longer cast pearls after swine?
So far there appears one or two sincere searchers have responded well to the “Lake of Fire” truths, which I believe are a major dividing line. As long as these searchers appear to be hungry, I think it is expedient to share all the loaves and fishes that Jesus has given me. I always understood the loaves and fishes parable to mean that no matter how much God’s faithfuls give out, the baskets will not run empty.
Yes, I would always remove a recanted teaching or any other post at your request. Like you I do not worry about plagiarism, because no body wants to buy this. Go figure!
Again, it really is amazing to see the worst of humanity right in the midst of those who actually do see Universal Reconciliation.
I do diligently pray that God keeps granting me sight!

In Christ,
M___

Hi M____,
Thanks for your question.
You ask about accepting Facebook invitations.

It is good that you consider these invitations as an invitation for fellowship in Christ and yes, you do “remember correctly”, “a man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition reject.”

Tit 3:10  A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11  Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

It does not say “third, fourth, or one hundreth”, but first and second. Christ said the same thing in Mat 18.

Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16  But if he will not hear [ thee, then] take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell [ it] unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

You and I should always give a person we have never met the benefit of the doubt at first, and assume that he is sincerely seeking only to know what the scriptures teach. But once you have presented the scriptures and it has become clear that this person is not in fear of the Word of God and isn’t even fazed by the scriptures you present to him or her and is simply pushing an unscriptural agenda, you are to determine whether this brother or sister has heard the truth from another brother or sister, and if he has, then you are commanded to witness to the Truth twice, and then you are to “got to the church” and let them know that this brother is teaching heresy. That is what the scriptures teach is necessary to keep unity in the body of Christ. That is what is rejected by the so- called ecumenical movement which pervades all orthodox Christians in today’s world.
These Biblical instructions concerning heretics can all be done over the internet, but it is important that “your brother” hear your witness “from one or two other brothers”, whether that is via the internet, the phone or in person once you know that the person with whom you are communicating has heard the same witness from another brother in Christ, and you have personally witnessed to him “the… second” time, then you and I are commanded to “tell it to the church, and if he neglects to hear the church, let him be to you as a heathen man and a publican.” What that means is “have no company with that man.”

Mat 18:17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

2Th 3:14  And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

“Have no company” is not a command to be uncivil toward anyone. Rather it is a command not to let that person into your spiritual house to discuss spiritual matters with him, and what it is, is a command against bidding Him god- speed, or placing your blessing on his false doctrines.

2Jn 1:9  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11  For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

These are the words of Jesus Christ. These words essentially deputize all Christians to become what all heretics call “heresy hunters.” Anyone who dares to “try the spirits to see whether they are of God” and then dares to “go to his brother” about a sinful doctrine is only doing what God commands us to do. Nevertheless, that person is invariably labeled “divisive, elitist, cold hearted and a heresy hunter” by those who despise having their doctrines exposed and contrasted with what the scriptures teach.
This is all being done via the internet. The Lord has given us this medium of communication, and Facebook is part of the internet, but like the rest of the internet it can be abused. Some children share pornography, while others are harassed to the point that it drives them to commit suicide.
Some people use Facebook to keep from having to actually communicate one on one. In other words, they use Facebook on a daily basis, sort of like some people send out an annual letter to let all their family and friends know how they are faring on a daily basis. You go to the computer, and there it is: “So- and- so is playing tennis today at 10 A. M.” That is fine for those who do that, but others simply don’t have time to do that, and it really is just a matter of personal preference.
On the other hand I have received and answered many sincere questions concerning scripture on Facebook. So Facebook does serve to keep many people connected, but for my purposes of sharing the gospel, it simply is not ideal because scriptural answers generally require more space than the box on Facebook provides. I often answer Facebook inquiries in e- mail, if I have that person’s e- mail address.
But again, that is a personal preference, and Facebook can be and is good for those who want to use it.
I hope I have answered your question about using face book invitations as a means of witnessing and also your question about “trying the spirits and rejecting a heretic after the first and second admonition.”

Your brother in Christ,
Mike

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We As His Disciples https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/we-as-his-disciples/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=we-as-his-disciples Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:00:01 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=5225

Hi Mike,

I have read everything on your site. There are tons of information there.

But one thing seems very lacking: relationships. There is One Way God setup for people to learn, and that way must be honored. When that way gets lost and forgotten, it has to be restored. That way is within special relationships.

Also, do you know what Peter saw that gave him the faith to walk on water?

Thanks,
M____

Hi M____,

Thank you for reading the entire site, and thank you for your encouraging words. Thank you also for taking the time to let me know of your concerns and for your question.

You say:

I could not agree with you more concerning the way God has set up for people to learn and to grow. It is through special relationships, which the scriptures refer to as “His body.” If you have indeed “read everything” on my site, then you know that I actually emphasize the need and necessity for fellowship within that body if it expects to remain healthy.

1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is [the] Christ.

I have emphasized the scriptural doctrine that Christ is a spiritual body just like our own bodies of flesh, and there is “no man yet who ever hated His own flesh, but nourished it.” Christ made this statement:

Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

How can we even kid ourselves that we love our fellow believer if we cannot even find the time to respond to his desire for fellowship? How can we even hope to be a spiritually viable body when we show no desire for fellowship? It is common to become so wrapped up in accruing knowledge that we ignore the needs of those who are closest to us. I speak from hard experience, and I understand that life is a balancing act, which provokes these inspired words:

Php 4:5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

If indeed “the Lord is at hand” in our lives, we will have self control and we will be moderate in all our ways, but we will never forget or neglect the very “body” of “the Lord [who] is at hand.”
I am constantly encouraging those who have the ability to do so, to start a web page, or get on any of the countless means of communicating available today, and I tell everyone to download skype.

IWWB is not an organization any more than the work of the apostle’s Paul, Peter or John was, but like the apostle Paul we do want to do anything in our power to “help your joy.”

2Co 1:24 Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.

Skype is way of communicating via the computer with anyone, anywhere on earth, and it is free. You can use a web camera with a built in microphone for your computer or some computers already have a camera built in, and go to skype. com and download skype, free of charge, and give me and many others a ‘skype.’ I would love to hear from you or anyone else who feels the need for fellowship. I am in constant fellowship with brothers and sisters in Christ in England and Egypt and South Africa and Australia via skype. [Note: As of this update we now can add Zoom to the arsenal of our means to fellowship. On the home page one can find studies or fellowships for almost every day of the week.] I can see and hear those who have a camera, and we enjoy sweet fellowship. So get yourself a camera, and give me a skype. I look forward to hearing from you.

You asked:

Yes, Peter saw Christ walking on water and asked Him to bid him to do the same:

Mat 14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away.
Mat 14:23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.
Mat 14:24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary.
Mat 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.
Mat 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.
Mat 14:27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.
Mat 14:28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
Mat 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
Mat 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
Mat 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth [his] hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
Mat 14:32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.

“If it be you?” Peter wasn’t even sure this was the physical Christ, but he saw what appeared to be Christ walking on water and figured it was worth it to ask Christ to bid him to join Him there walking on the water.

Mat 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.
Mat 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

The same thing which gave Peter the faith to walk on water was the same thing that challenged Peter’s faith. It was what he saw with his physical eyes.

Mat 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.

This is exactly what Christ warns against:

Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

Christ was sending the same message while verbally chastising His disciples after His resurrection:

Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you.
Joh 20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
Joh 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Joh 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; [and] whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained.
Joh 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
Joh 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

Christ did “many other signs” for His faithless disciples, but His blessing was placed upon those who believed “that have not seen.” Our faith cannot be tried when our prayers are always answered. It is seeking God’s will that is the path to salvation:

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

Since we are assured that it is actually God who is “working all things” we know that all of our petitions are answered “after the counsel of His own will,” and whether it is the answer we want or not, it is the answer we have been given, and our prayer was thus answered.

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

I hope that answers your question.

I would like to encourage you and all of my readers to send me any suggestions you have to ‘help the joy’ of the body of Christ. Steve Crook, Aaron Lohman, Kenwin Thomas and several others of the people in our fellowship have long been trying to facilitate more relationships within and among our brothers and sisters in Christ.

However, all the technology in the world does no good if we do not take the time to use it to uplift and encourage one another. There are many bothers and sisters who are starved for fellowship all around the world. We need to minister to that need in any way we can. If there is a way that we can facilitate fellowship to the extent that even single women can be assured of quality fellowship in the spirit of Christ, then please let me know, so that we can do our part to “help your joy.”

I will close by repeating the verse I quoted above. I hope all who read this letter will take this to heart and give their love to those who are so in need of that love.

Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

I look forward to hearing from you if the Lord leads you to begin fellowshiping with those of like mind. Relationships are the leaven with which the kingdom of God will leaven the whole earth at the appointed time:

Luk 13:20 And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God?
Luk 13:21 It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

Your brother in Christ,
Mike

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Can We Eat With A Friend Who Believes Heresy? https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/can-we-eat-with-a-friend-who-believes-heresy/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=can-we-eat-with-a-friend-who-believes-heresy Fri, 22 May 2009 21:16:00 +0000 http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/?p=2056

Hi Mike,

I am reading “What is the Difference Between Knowing and Believing We Are God’s Elect?”, and I was wondering:

2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Receive him not into your house, is spiritually speaking, right? I can have someone coming over in my physical brick house, a person who is not abiding in the doctrines of Christ, and have a coffee and a talk with him. Not recieving him in my house is speaking of not spiritually recieving his doctrines in my spiritual house. Am I correct ?

Your brother in Christ
R____

Hi R____,

You can have family members and friends who oppose the doctrine of Christ into your physical home, and you can eat physical food with them. What you do not do is to talk about spiritual matters with those who are not receptive to the doctrine of Christ. That is the meaning of “no not to eat.”

1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

In other words, “receive him not into your house” is very similar to “cast not your pearls before swine…”

2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Christ himself physically ate at the house of Simon the Pharisee, who did not have the doctrine of Christ.

Luk 7:36 And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to meat.
Luk 7:37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that [ Jesus] sat at meat in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
Luk 7:38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
Luk 7:39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
Luk 7:40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.

The Pharisees certainly did not “have the doctrine of Christ.” Christ even warned His disciples to “beware of the leaven of the Pharisees.” They were “called [ Christ’s Jewish] brothers, yet when invited “to eat with Simon the Pharisee,” Christ “went into the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to meat.” But Christ did not partake of the Pharisee’s spiritual meat. Instead He used the occasion to witness to Simon, the Pharisee:

Luk 7:40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
Luk 7:41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
Luk 7:42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
Luk 7:43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that [ he], to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
Luk 7:44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped [ them] with the hairs of her head.
Luk 7:45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
Luk 7:46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
Luk 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
Luk 7:48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Luk 7:49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?

I hope this helps you to see that Christ could physically eat with a man whose doctrine was contrary to His own, and yet not allow that person into His own spiritual house. So it is obvious that we too can eat a physical meal with friends and family members whose doctrine is contrary to that of Christ, and if the opportunity arises to witness to them and they refuse the doctrine of Christ, it become a “witness against them.” But we are not to partake of their spiritual food or allow them into our spiritual house.

Rom 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
Rom 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

That is the principle by which we live. We can feed our enemy spiritually, but we are not to partake of our enemy’s food spiritually. Be not overcome of evil ‘doctrine,’ but overcome evil ‘doctrine’ with good ‘doctrine.’

Luk 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

Shaking off the dust from your feet is also a spiritual statement and not a physical ritual. We have no record of Christ ever performing that ritual as they were driven out of certain towns. The disciples were told to do it, but it is no more a required ritual than ‘drinking His blood’.

Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Luk 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

It is not that which is outside a man that entering into him defiles him. But that doctrine which is in our hearts which, if it is not that of Christ, will defile us.

Mat 15:11 Not that which entereth into the mouth defileth the man; but that which proceedeth out of the mouth, this defileth the man.
Mat 15:18 But the things which proceed out of the mouth come forth out of the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, railings:
Mat 15:20 these are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not the man.

I hope this helps you to see that when Christ or His apostles speak of eating with someone who opposes His Truth, that it is understood that it is “not that which enters into the mouth that defiles a man, but it is that which proceeds out of the mouth that defiles a man.”

Your brother in Christ,
Mike

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