In What Way Is Christ God
Hi Mike,
This was posted by a person on [ a bible forum], what do you make of it? It seems the person replying to the quote believes the kingdom will never be given back to the Father.
Quote: The Kingdom will be handed over to God when the our spiritual husband and brother and king, subjects all enemies to it so that they might be subjects OF it. WRONG
The LORD said to My Lord, set thee at my Right hand till I make thy enemies thy footstool.
Who is The LORD and who is My Lord (That David spoke of in Psalms)??
Can anyone find a second witness to the Cor. verse that implies Jesus Christ is subduing all things and then handing it over to the Father???
Cant’ be done, because the Cor. verse is the only witness that gives this convoluted conclusion. Think on the Psalms verse, and God willing it will open your eyes.Thanks brother,
D____
Hi D____,
Thank you for your question.
If one thinks the word of God is convoluted, then why study it? If on the other hand, you think people’s understanding of God’s Word is “convoluted” and without a “second witness” then you need to give the proper understanding of the verse in question or else just confess what you are making obvious; that you do not think God’s Word is infallible. A post like this would not be given the light of day on iswasandwillbe. com. If this man were seeking to know what 1Co 15:20 was saying, or if he were even trying to explain it, then such an attitude would be honored. But speaking of God’s word as if the apostle Paul himself was speaking “convoluted” doctrine contrary to Psalms tells me that this writer does not believe that “the sum or thy word is truth,” which also happens to be in Psalms:
Psa 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting.
The need for a second witness is a good point. But if you don’t even believe that the apostle Paul is an inspired writer and you don’t even see the need to explain 1Co 15:20, then you will not be given time or space on IWWB.
One ‘second witness’ for 1 Cor. 15:20 is the very scripture this man quotes to show it has no second witness:
Psa 110:1 <A Psalm of David.> The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
This is way over the head of ‘Peacetroll,’ but there is something in the New Testament which is called “the Christ” of Christ. Look at these few verses:
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
The apostle Peter spoke these words to the Jews in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost. Now consider this verse, just a couple of chapters later after the chief priests had begun persecuting the church at Jerusalem:
Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
This word ‘Christ’ means simply ‘anointed.’ All priests are ‘anointed’ to be of service for God to His people. Now here is what Christ tells us about who we are to Him:
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
“As My Father hath sent me SO send I you.” What did the Father send Christ to do? He sent Him to die for His own children. And what has Christ sent us to do? He sent us to lay down our lives for our brothers:
Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
This is not speaking of taking a bullet for a friend. It could well include that but it is far broader in its application than that. We must “present out bodies a living sacrifice…”
Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Like Christ, we too, as the christ of Christ, are sent “AS His Father hath sent Him” to present our bodies a living sacrifice…” for our brothers. Here now is how we do that, and this is what ‘Peacetroll’ is totally unaware of as he teaches that Christ is both the Son and the Father:
Col 1:24 Now, am I rejoicing in the sufferings on your behalf, and am filling up the things that lack of the tribulations of the Christ, in my flesh, in behalf of his body, which is the assembly, (REV)
‘The tribulations which are lacking of THE Christ’, are what are fulfilled in us as we present our bodies to God as a living sacrifice, by laying down our lives for our friends.” Those are the tribulations of THE christ of our Lord Jesus Christ. But THE christ will rule and reign the kingdoms of this world with our Lord Jesus Christ:
Rev 11:15 And, the seventh messenger, sounded; and there came to be loud voices in heaven, saying- The kingdom of the world, hath become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign unto the ages of ages.(REV)
So it takes Christ to fill His Father just as we fill Christ:
Eph 1:3 Blessed, be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing, in the heavenlies, in Christ,
Eph 1:9 making known to us the sacred secret of his will, according to his good pleasure which he purposed in him,-
Eph 1:10 For an administration of the fulness of the seasons, to reunite for himself (under one head) the all things in the Christ, the things upon the heavens, and the things upon the earth, in him: (REV)
This is probably not for the eyes of ‘Peacetroll,’ but verse ten is definitely another ‘second witness’ to the so- called ‘convoluted’ words of 1 Cor. 15:28:
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him [ the Lord and His Christ], then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God [ the Father] may be all in all.
Both verses are saying virtually the same thing for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. Here again is another verse which makes this same point just a few verses later in Ephesians one:
Eph 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
Christ’s “inheritance… [ is] in the saints.”
Eph 1:22 And [ the Father] hath put all [ things] under his [ Christ’s] feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Eph 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
“The church, Christ’s body, [ is] the fulness of Him [ Christ] that fills all in all [ His Father].” Here is how Christ put all of this at an earlier time:
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I [ am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
I hope this gives you a better idea of who is “His christ… THE christ” of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of His Father:
1Co 8:6 But to us [ there is but] one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and [ besides this “one God, the Father” there is also] one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
The story of Eve coming out from Adam is the story of Christ coming out from His creator, the Father of Jesus Christ.
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
According to Christ Himself, He is God in the same sense that “ye are gods.”
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Christ would have had no point to be made if He were saying that He Himself were the Father. That would be like saying ‘Ye are the Father,’ and neither we, nor He, are the Father. But we are gods, just as Christ was pointing out that He is a God.
So “the Lord says unto my lord sit thou at my right hand until I have made thy enemies thy footstool,” applies to “THE Christ” who has been sent by Christ just as His Father sent Him. Besides this too, is a second witness to that Truth:
1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
Mike
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