Going Back To Babylonish Church
Mike,
I have a question about the application of God’s word. My parents were called out of the church many years ago. They have both tasted of God’s greatness in their lives, and I do not view what I am going to share with you as anything except being of God. Recently my Dad has been starting back into Egypt/ Babylon/ Sodom, and has told my mother he would like to go back to church. My mother protests. I told her because she is married to him, that she honors Christ by obeying her husband. I know there is a verse in Psalms that shows that God honors (maybe the wrong word here) one who keeps his word even when that vow contradicts God’s own word, I think God honors it by burning the whole thing up. My question starts here… How does my mother walk according to the spirit?
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
… and how do we compare spiritual with spiritual…
Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Doesn’t this verse typify the body of Christ?
And is comparing spiritual with spiritual to say that these verses (1Ti 2:11-12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. (12) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.) apply to the “spiritually” weak and not physical women, if understood with this verse…. Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither BOND nor FREE, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus?
As I ask this I want to be clear. I desire to have the mind of Christ in this matter, and if I have an idol of heart, I know God will deal with it.
I know from personal experience that we as spouses cannot clean the inside of the cup of our mates… and I believe that my mother going to a building cannot hide the true light within. So back to my question… is being spiritually strong (man or woman) best administered by… Rom 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves? Is my mother best demonstrating the mind of Christ and filling up in her body…Mat 8:17 “That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself (body included) took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses”?
Would she be trying to be my Dad’s head (supplant/ usurp) if she pointed out scriptural truth instead of remaining silent?
Mike, she came to me and asked me, and I told her that I felt like because she took a vow to be a wife (even if she was ignorant then), that she would best honor Christ by honoring her husband. I also pointed her toward the fact that since she knew that going to church had nothing to do with true worship of God, that she was not soiling her inner cup by being in a building as long as she tried the spirits.
As I was reading your paper on the site, I came across this…“The story of the ‘rib’ teaches us union not dis- union.
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man [ married or single] is Christ; and the head of the woman [ married or single] is the man [ Christ]; and the head of Christ is God.”So back to my question… if Christ be the head of a married woman, how does she honor Christ best in the situation I shared with you?
YBIC,
M___
Hi M____,
Thank you for your question concerning whether your mother should go back to Babylon with your father. This subject will serve to demonstrate who it is that we are really desirous of pleasing, and it will also demonstrate who we should please.
Your mother is placing God above your father, and while it is true that she is commanded to be subject to your father, that command is qualifies with “as unto Christ”.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
The scriptures illustrate for us how we are to understand Eph 5:22. You and I are commanded to “be subject to the higher powers”, and we are told that if we resist those powers, we are resisting God and will be damned.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
But “the sum of God’s word” reveals that when the ‘higher powers’ insist that we directly disobey the commandments of God, then “we ought to obey God rather than men”, even men who are “ordained of God”.
Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Here is what Christ tells us concerning our spouses and what should be their relationship with us as it relates to Christ and our heavenly Father.
Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Mar 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s,
Mar 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
Luk 18:29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God’s sake,
Luk 18:30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.
As far as God telling Eve that “her desire would be to her husband”, please go back and reread that paper on The Head of Christ is God. In that paper it is demonstrated that that verse should read “your desire shall be against your husband.”
Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to [ Hebrew – against] thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
The Hebrew word translated translated ”to’, is the exact same Hebrew word translated ‘against’ in the very next chapter.
Gen 4:8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
The Hebrew word here is ‘el’ and is translated ‘against’ 151 times elsewhere in the Old Testament according to the KJC module of e- sword. The spiritual message in Gen 3:16 is that because Eve had disobeyed Christ’s commandment, her curse was to be an innate desire to rebel against her husband also. “Your desire shall be against your husband” just as it is innate in all men to rebel against Christ. That is the spiritual application of that verse, and that is what your mother would be doing if she returns to Babylon to please your father rather than pleasing her heavenly Father. Your mother may not know anything you know, but she still has to live with the measure of faith she had been granted.
You mention Gal 3:28, and that verse is, of course, true.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
But Paul is not saying that women, because they are “in Christ” and because “there is neither male nor female” can now become bishops, and preachers, church leaders, and the head of the household. The very next verse gives us the point Paul and the holy spirit are making.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
“God really is no respecter of persons”, and your mother is just as precious to Him as is your father. But when it comes to “come out of her my people…” your mother, just like you and me and the apostles who returned to minister in the temple after being told not to do so, “ought to obey God rather than man”. In other words, it would not be adding one word to God’s word to read what Christ said about wives and substitute the word husbands in the verses we quoted above. I will do so with Luke’s account, just to make that point.
Luk 18:29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man [ or woman] that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife [ or husband], or children, for the kingdom of God’s sake,
Luk 18:30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.
As you point out “the strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not please themselves”.
Rom 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
This “we then” is a reference back to the previous chapter which is dealing with the very same situation of who we should place first in our lives. Do we place God and His word first, or does someone else occupy that position? The entire chapter of Rom 14 admonishes the strong to bear the infirmities of the weak, just as Peter admonishes us all to desire the sincere milk of the word. But for and to what end?
1Pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
But neither Rom 14 and 15 nor 1Pe 2:2 command the brother who is not weak in the faith, to abandon his meat for the milk of his weaker brother, and none of us should ever revert back to the fish and herbs of Egypt.
Num 11:5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick:
The commandment in Rom 14 and 15 is in accord with Peter’s admonition to “new born babes to desire the sincere milk of the word, that they may grow thereby.” Neither Peter nor Paul admonish the stronger brother to revert to the weak brother’s herbs and milk and stop growing, simply because “he that is weak eateth herbs.”
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
These words are addressed to the stronger brother, and the stronger brother is admonished to understand that a babe is not a strong person and cannot be expected to act as a strong person. But the strong brothers are never to allow the weak brothers to argue and “dispute” those things which constitute being “strong in the faith” and capable of digesting the “strong meat of the word.” How can we expect a weak brother to eat strong meat? So this whole chapter instructs the strong to be patient with a weak herb eating brother who “esteems one day above another, and eats herbs.”
This chapter is designed to “keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace”. It is not designed to be divisive, but when we place unity with our brothers above the unity of the spirit, which ‘spirit’ is God’s Word, then we are doomed to divisiveness, and all who do that will become as divided as Babylon, all the while telling themselves that they are striving for the unity of the body of Christ and the love of the children of God. But neither of those goals can be attained by ignoring these verses.
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
It is far better to be divided by the word of God, than it is to be united in the days, months, times and years of which Christ refused to be a part.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Christ “broke the sabbath.” He did not appear on the first day of the feast as was commanded by Moses, and He did this all under great pressure from His own family to fit in with the traditions of His day. Yet Christ never gave an inch, and still He never despised His weaker brothers in His family.
So Paul begins his instructions to the strong brother to receive the weaker brother but not to permit that brother to argue and dispute with the meat of the word which ‘meat’ is the “all things” which the strong brother can eat, and the stronger brother’s ability to follow in Christ’s footsteps and “esteem every day alike”.
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth [ all things] despise him that eateth not [ all things, and eats only herbs]; and let not him which eateth no t judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou [ that eats not and judges your stronger brother] that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [ alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
The brother or sister who is strong in the faith and who “eats all things” is never to allow the weak brother to reduce him or her to eating herbs.
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
“Leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ” has nothing to do with denying them. They are what Peter calls “the sincere milk of the word.” It is through this “sincere milk” that we come to be able “to eat all things… the strong meat of the word.”
Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [ be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Being “full of age” we know better than to force strong meat on someone who “esteems one day above another”, and truly believes he is doing so “unto the Lord.”
The admonition here is that the stronger brothers should acknowledge that the weak brother is sincere and is doing what he is doing according to the measure of faith he has been given. The strong brother is admonished not to despise his weak brother, and the weak brother is admonished “not to judge” the strong brother who can “eat all things and esteem every day alike.”
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth [ all things] despise him that eateth not [ all things, but eats only herbs]; and let not him which eateth not [ all things] judge him that eateth: for God hath received him[ who eats all things].
Rom 14:4 Who art thou [ you weak brother who eats herbs and yet “judges him that “eats all things”] that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
“God has received” the brother who “eats all things”, and the weak brother is admonished not to judge his stronger brother.
Notice who it is that “eats all things”. It is the strong brother, and he is told not to despise his weak brother. Who is it that “eats not” all things. It is the weak brother who can eat only herbs, and he is admonished not to judge his stronger brother who is able to eat things which the weak brother cannot yet receive or digest.
At the end of this admonition Paul makes it clear that he is placing the execution of all of this admonition mostly on the shoulders of the stronger brother who is expected to set the agenda and the example for the weaker brother when he concludes with the verse you quote.
Rom 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
“Bear the infirmities”. He does not tell us to ‘become infirmed’. Here is how Christ obeyed these words under these very same circumstances, when He was exhorted by His own brothers to observe the traditional days of the law of Moses.
Joh 7:6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
Rom 15:1 tells us that weak brothers are to be treated as having “infirmities”, and the stronger brother should naturally allow for that condition and “bear the infirmities of the weak”. Now if the strong brother becomes the weak and infirmed brother, he will be of no help to either himself or his weak brother. What good is a sighted person to a blind person if he puts out his own eyes and becomes a blind person?
So Peter’s admonition is in accord with Paul’s admonition. The weak brother should desire the sincere milk of the word “that he may grow thereby”, and Paul is simply instructing us in Rom 14 to allow time for that growth and not to expect a newborn babe to eat strong meat. The strong meat will kill the new born babe, and the new born babe’s milk will starve to death the brother or sister who “eats all things”.
Paul confesses that he eats all things.
Rom 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean [ a brother who is weak in the faith], to him it is unclean.
Rom 14:15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, [ esteeming every day alike, as Christ did] now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
Rom 14:16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
Christ was not “destroying His weak brothers by refusing to follow in their weak steps. That is not what “Destroy not your weak brother with your meat” means. Paul calls the strong meat “your good”, but he is admonishing the stronger brother, that he should not try to force the brother who is weak in the faith to eat more than he is able to digest as yet.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Rom 14:18 For he that in these things [ despising not his weaker brother] serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
Rom 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
A weak brother will not edify a strong brother by attempting to bring the strong brother down to his spiritual herbs. What is it that “makes for peace and edifies both parties”? Paul is referring to the strong brother bearing the infirmities of the weak brother, and allowing him time to grow in his faith, before expecting him to be able to receive strong meat.
Rom 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things [ which the stronger brother can eat] indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. [ forces strong meat on a weak brother].
I made the mistake of feeding my firstborn son baked beans when he was about three weeks old. He kept spitting the beans out, and I kept putting them back into his mouth until he finally swallowed the beans which his infant’s digestive system could not handle. Fortunately for my son, his mother instructed me that our son was not yet ready to eat such food, so I refrained from forcing him to eat food he could not digest. I actually was under the impression, as we all are at some time, that if I could just force this solid food down his mouth, it would be good for him. But that is not so.
Rom 14:21 It is good neither [ to try to force your brother] to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
Strong meat will cause a babe in Christ to stumble, be offended and be made even weaker. So what ought we to do? But I did not revert to living on milk just because my son could not eat the the hot dog I had while I was feeding him the beans.
Rom 14:22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing [ the strong meat] which he alloweth.
Go ahead and eat your strong meat. You can do so in good faith. That is what you and I need. ‘It is good neither [ to try to force your brother] to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak” is not an admonition by the apostle Paul to stop eating strong spiritual meat. But it is an admonition against forcing that strong meat on a brother who still doubts, and cannot yet, in good faith, eat your strong meat.
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
What is this all about? Why is Paul writing this chapter? Is physical food really the subject? No, this is the subject that is under consideration.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Does this verse conflict with the many verses that admonish us all to “be of one mind”?
1Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
2Co 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
If we take Rom 14:5 by itself, it certainly appears to say that we can all think and do what we feel is right, and “whatsoever in not of faith is sin” replaces “speak the same thing… be of the same mind.” On the other hand, if we understand that Rom 14:5 and the rest of this chapter which is addressed to the brothers who are strong enough to follow the example of our Lord who, as our example and our pattern, was under pressure from His family and all of society to conform to the law of Moses, did not buckle to that pressure, but rather remained “strong in the faith” and “esteemed every day alike.” He obey His heavenly father rather than men, and yet did not expect his family or society to do so. When we follow His example, then there is no contradiction at all.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord [ as Christ’s family did]; and he that regardeth not the day [ as Christ has set us an example, if we are strong enough to receive it], to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth [ strong meat], eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not [ strong meat, but eats only herbs], to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
That is the ‘food’ which is being considered in this chapter.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Rom 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
Christ lived to please His father. He did not allow the pressures of society to dissuade Him from doing that, and yet He did not condemn those who were still keeping the sabbaths and holy days of the Jews, even as He refused to do so. Here is how Christ, applied the words of Rom 14:
Joh 7:3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
Joh 7:4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.
It is so human and so very natural for the weak brothers of Christ to want to set His agenda and instruct Him in how He should give up his meat for their herbs, and to make an effort to become a popular leader in this age.
Joh 7:5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.
No one who places the love of his brothers above the love of God, really loves his brothers at all. So a brother who is weak in the faith will always judge His stronger brother as being divisive and uncaring of his brothers because the stronger brother will not compromise his obedience to the example left him by Christ and by the apostles of Christ. Here is the only love that is the true Godly love.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Now all we need to do is to observe how our Savior applied all of these verses, and we really ought to follow in His steps and not to please ourselves or our wives or husbands or family members or friends. Here is the example Christ left us to follow.
Joh 7:6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
One of the ways Christ “testified that the works of the the world are evil” was, in the context of His words here in Joh 7, to refuse to participate in their days, months, times and years. Christ steadfastly refused to “esteem one day above another.” That is a piece of strong meat with which “him that is weak in the faith…” will always dispute. Nevertheless, these are Christ’s words to His family who could not yet follow in His footsteps, and who considered him to be insane.
Joh 7:8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.
Joh 7:9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee [ contrary to the law which required all males to appear before God on the first day of every festival].
Joh 7:10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.
Mar 3:21 And the ones from His side [ fig., His relatives] having heard, they went out to take hold of Him, for they said that He was out of His mind. (ALT).
Christ made no attempt to convert his carnal brothers and sisters. He let them eat their herbs and esteem one day above another, and did not despise them for what He was working in their lives. But neither did He compromise and water down His gospel so it would have a wider appeal to those who were not yet capable of eating strong meat. Instead He was patient with His weak brothers and He bore their infirmities, knowing we would all give an accounting for the measure of faith we are granted before His own judgment seat.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.
A weak brother stumbles at meat, and a strong brother starves on milk. So what are we now to do? The answer is the verse you reference.
Rom 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Rom 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
Rom 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
“We that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak… please not himself… please his neighbor for his good, to edification, and expect to be reproached of their weaker brothers.
If your mother is true to Christ and Christ’s example, then she will “please your father for his good to edification.” But going back to Babylon on a regular basis will not edify your father for his good. Here is how you and I and your mother are to treat what is taught in Babylon every week.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [ your] house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
It is completely untenable to attend Babylon on a regular basis and remain true to these verses and commandments of God.
It is the strong brother who is to be patient with the weak herb- eating brother, and yet not allow that weaker brother to set the standard of behavior or the agenda for those who can “eat all things and esteem every day alike”, and “bring this doctrine” just as our Lord did.
Here is one more section of scripture which is often abused to justify watering down the “doctrine of Christ.”
1Co 8:7 Howbeit [ there is] not in every man that knowledge [ that there is but one God, the Father of whom are all things]: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it [ meat offered to an idol] as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
1Co 8:8 But meat [ offered to an idol] commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
1Co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1Co 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
1Co 8:11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
1Co 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
1Co 8:13 Wherefore, if [ eating] meat [ offered to an idol] make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh [ in an idols temple] while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
Many people read verse 13 as if verse 10 did not exist. But verse 10 is the basis for verse 13. Not one single apostle of Christ ever taught that the weak brothers were to be the standard by which the rest of us should live our spiritual lives. The exact opposite is true. The strong were told that their strength was good, and they should leave the milk and herb principles of the doctrine of Christ and go on unto perfection. The weak are told to “Desire the sincere milk of the word so as to grow there by.” That is the message of Rom 14 and 15. It is the message of Joh 7, Heb 5 and 6, and it is the message of 1Pe 2, 1Co 8, and 2Jn 1. The strong brothers are to be overseers of God’s flock and never to allow grievous wolves with heresies and the “leaven of the Pharisees to enter unchallenged into God’s flock and destroy it. At the same time, the bishops and overseers of the flock are to be patient with “him that is weak in the faith.”
I will close with this verse which is addressed to both the weak and the strong in the body of Christ.
Php 3:16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
I hope this helps you to see that your mother is expected to submit to your father in anything that does not require here to violate the doctrine of Christ, but returning to weekly Babylonian services is nothing less than letting false doctrine and spiritual fornication into your spiritual house and then bidding it god speed.
Let me know what you think.
Your brother in Christ,
Mike
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- We As His Disciples (June 4, 2009)
- Using Our Gifts (April 24, 2007)
- Unequally Yoked Together With Unbelievers (September 20, 2010)
- Uncovering The Nakedness Of Your Near Of Kin (January 22, 2009)
- Train Up A Child In The Way He Should Go (March 24, 2010)
- The Works of The Flesh In Us (November 3, 2008)
- The Meaning Of Backsliding (March 17, 2009)
- The Hope That Lies Within Us (December 6, 2010)
- Temptation With The Affairs of This World (July 18, 2007)
- Standing For Christ In The Face of Promotion (July 11, 2005)
- Sister to Sister (March 24, 2007)
- Should Women Ask The Blessing? (June 29, 2010)
- Should We Sing And Dance In Church Services? (June 29, 2009)
- Should We Counsel This World? (April 8, 2012)
- Should We Continue Going To Church? Part 2 (July 6, 2006)
- Should I Even Try To Overcome An Addiction? (March 30, 2009)
- Should Christians Vote? (July 6, 2006)
- Should Christians Seek To Have A Tax Free Status? (August 13, 2007)
- Should Christians Play The Stock Market? (August 30, 2007)
- Should Christians Make A Better Place To Live? (March 28, 2005)
- Should Christians Get Tattoos? (August 16, 2008)
- Should Christians Fear Curses? (May 4, 2007)
- Should Christians Donate Organs? (April 27, 2010)
- Should Believers Date Unbelievers? (May 4, 2007)
- Should A Christian Ever Use Physical Force? (October 29, 2008)
- Sex Before Marriage? (July 10, 2008)
- Returning My Attention Back To The Bible (July 20, 2010)
- Responding To Holiday Greetings (December 14, 2009)
- Remember Every Word Out of the Mouth of God (October 1, 2011)
- Rebuking A Brother (December 16, 2009)
- Proverbs 31:10-31 Wife (October 3, 2008)
- Patience and Its Function (November 6, 2010)
- Our Lusts of Our Flesh? (January 7, 2010)
- Our Brothers in Babylon? (August 4, 2012)
- Orthodox Ministers Publicly Praying For The Elect (January 28, 2010)
- On Voting (October 21, 2010)
- Obedience and Admonition (April 11, 2007)
- New Christians Are Always Confused (July 15, 2004)
- Neighborhood Bible Study (July 5, 1999)
- My Advice For A Young Christian (March 23, 2008)
- More Than A Conqueror (July 10, 2008)
- Mike and Ray Split Part 1 (May 12, 2007)
- Married Women Keeping Their Maiden Names (April 29, 2007)
- Loving Our Families (October 6, 2010)
- Let Him Remain Ignorant (April 8, 2010)
- Leaving The Church Without Guilt (April 13, 2004)
- Knowing Doctrine And Truth (July 2, 2009)
- Kept By The Power Of God Through Faith (July 1, 2008)
- Keep Them In This World (December 14, 2009)
- Is The Holy Spirit Working As We Serve Our Flesh? (March 16, 2009)
- Is Joking Bad Works? (January 9, 2010)
- Is It Scriptural To Work Long Hours At A Job? (February 13, 2009)
- Is It Possible To Backslide? (December 13, 2010)
- Is It Okay To Attend Church With Family? (May 13, 2011)
- Is It All Right To Keep Quiet? (January 3, 2010)
- Is It All Right To Date Those In Babylon? (June 6, 2009)
- Is It A Sin To Gamble? (August 12, 2009)
- Is It A Sin To Drink And Smoke? (December 18, 2009)
- Is It A Sin To Be Angry? (October 3, 2008)
- Is Hypnosis Biblical? (March 27, 2010)
- Is Cremation A Sin (June 2, 2009)
- I Wish God Would Stop Me From Sinning (March 25, 2009)
- How to Be a Witness? (April 8, 2009)
- How To Handle Getting Puffed Up? (August 27, 2007)
- How Long Do We Continue In Sin? (April 24, 2007)
- How God Prepares Our Hearts? (January 11, 2008)
- How Do We Know We Are Elect? (August 4, 2012)
- How Do We Come Out of Babylon? (October 20, 2011)
- Home Schooling (October 20, 2006)
- Handling Freeloaders (August 26, 2008)
- Handling Alcoholic Relatives (August 26, 2008)
- Growing To Maturity (September 12, 2010)
- Gratitude For His Revelation (May 2, 2009)
- Grateful For The Truth Of Christ (October 3, 2004)
- Grateful For Revelation Series (December 9, 2008)
- Grateful But Feeling Inadequate (March 8, 2009)
- Good Works (August 4, 2008)
- Going Back To Babylonish Church (May 11, 2010)
- Glorified By Our Sufferings (January 30, 2009)
- Freely Ye Have Received Freely Give (May 3, 2008)
- Freed From The Law of Sin and Death (June 12, 2005)
- Does The Bible Condone Gambling? (February 1, 2010)
- Does Christ Advocate Slavery? (July 25, 2007)
- Do Wives Really Have to Submit? (February 12, 2012)
- Did The First Christians Practice Communism? (December 22, 2004)
- Did His Disciples Provide For Their Families? (August 7, 2007)
- Coming Out of Babylon (February 7, 2008)
- Come Out and Be Ye Separate (June 20, 2007)
- Church With An Unbelieving Husband (October 10, 2006)
- Christians And Owning Guns (March 27, 2009)
- Christian Response To Holiday Greetings (November 3, 2008)
- Can We Know Gods Will for a Specific Situation? (May 13, 2011)
- Can We Eat With A Friend Who Believes Heresy? (May 22, 2009)
- Can Christians Serve In The Military? (June 12, 2007)
- Can Christians Drink Wine? (July 23, 2010)
- Can Christians Divorce And Remarry? (July 28, 2010)
- Can Christian Men Work With Female Bosses? (June 22, 2010)
- Can Art Be Used To Glorify God? (April 24, 2007)
- Can A Policeman Be A Christian? (June 12, 2009)
- Can A Christian Watch TV? (July 14, 2007)
- Can A Christian Defend Others (August 4, 2009)
- Can A Christian Defend His Wife And Children? (November 18, 2009)
- Can A Christian Be Forced To Deny His Beliefs? (April 11, 2010)
- Can A Christian Be A Pharmacist? (April 3, 2009)
- But Ye Brethren Be Not Weary In Well Doing (August 16, 2010)
- Birthdays Holidays and Unbelieving Spouses (May 12, 2007)
- Being All Things (May 4, 2009)
- Bearing Witness While Leaving Babylon (June 23, 2008)
- Bearing The Infirmities of The Weak (May 9, 2007)
- Bearing The Infirmities Of The Weak Study (May 15, 2010)
- Bearing The Infirmities Of The Weak 2010 (May 25, 2010)
- Are Medical Abortions Murder? (May 17, 2009)