Can One Be on Psychotic Drugs and Still Be Elect?

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Hi R____,

Thank you for your questions. I will, as always, given you the scriptures relevant to your questions. You ask two questions. The first is:

That has never been a problem I have had to endure, except for a few minutes following a fall I had which could easily have killed me, back in 1975. I fell 22 feet head first. I just remember being unable to breath for several moments immediately after that fall. It all turned out well in the sense that there was no permanent damage, and I had a complete recovery after four days in the hospital. I know the Lord worked that experience for my good, and to this very day, I am very much aware of how easily the Lord could withdraw His breath from me.

Psa 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
Psa 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

It is very instructive to know that the word ‘breath’ in verse 29, is the exact same Hebrew word which the translators have translated as ‘spirit’ in the very next verse. Both are the Hebrew word ‘ruach’, and it by far most often translated as ‘spirit’. But having problems breathing has not been a recurring problem for me. I do not pretend to know what the Lord is working in your life, but if you are having problems breathing, then that too, is under the hand of the Lord, even when it is being carried out by an evil spirit. As the book of Job demonstrates so very graphically, Satan is nothing more than the Lord’s “hand” for Job’s and for our good.

Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
Job 1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

It is God who is in complete charge of removing the hedge and then sending Satan to take “all that [ Job] had”. The next chapter repeats this scenario of God sending an evil spirit to afflict Job.

Job 2:4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
Job 2:5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
Job 2:7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

So our trials are not out of His hand or His control, but are instead His very work:

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Our trials are designed to teach us that our “old man”, our carnal nature, is designed by God to be destroyed, and through that destruction to be remade like an ugly, earth- bound caterpillar, crawling on its belly, becoming a beautiful butterfly, free to fly through the heavens.

Jer 18:4 and marred is the vessel that he is making, as clay in the hand of the potter [ our “old man… the first man, Adam”], and he hath turned and he maketh it another vessel, as it was right in the eyes of the potter to make [“the new man… the last Adam”.
1Co 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body; there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body;
1Co 15:45 so also it hath been written, ` The first man Adam became a living creature’, the last Adam is for a life- giving spirit,
1Co 15:46 but that which is spiritual is not first, but that which was natural, afterwards that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is out of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord out of heaven;
1Co 15:48 as is the earthy, such are also the earthy; and as is the heavenly, such are also the heavenly;
1Co 15:49 and, according as we did bear the image of the earthy, we shall bear also the image of the heavenly.
1Co 15:50 And this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood the reign of God is not able to inherit, nor doth the corruption inherit the incorruption;

That is what God is doing with you! It is a wonderful thing to know that the end is a glorious end.

Your second question is:

God’s elect are His elect “before the world began”.

1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

But that does not mean that they are not judged and made to give an accounting for the evil they do that God uses to bring His own elect to repentance. God’s judgments are “fiery trials” which bring us to repentance:

Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
2Co 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

So then, the apostle Paul was God’s elect “before the world began”, but that was not evident while he was “yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord”.

Act 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Act 9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

Saul of Tarsus was not suffering from any form of psychosis, but he was certainly being influenced by “an evil spirit from the Lord”, which caused him to want to kill anyone who followed Christ. Psychosis is also a work of God, as indeed, He is “working all things after the counsel of His own will.” So just as Saul of Tarsus was delivered from his hatred for the people of God, so are God’s elect, to this very day, brought to repentance and are delivered from all of the evil spirits God sends to afflict them. Then it is evident that the Lord is living in His elect, delivering them from the afflictions they must first endure. I hope my words serve to give you hope for the day of your deliverance from these psychotic drugs. Stay in touch and stay in God’s Word, because His words are spirit, and His spirit will overcome all evil spirits in time.

Your brother in our Lord’s service,


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