Universal Salvation Is His Sovereign Will

Hi S____,

You ask where we fellowship. We does have fellowship at my home here, in Flowery Branch, Georgia. I would love to see you at either of our fellowships. There are a few others scattered around the country – Mobile, AL, Dallas, TX, Houston, TX, Indianapolis, IN to name a few. If you are interested, let me know, and I will send you directions to the one you wish to attend.

I looked at and searched the site [ that you mentioned]. No, I had never heard of it, till you mentioned it. I found the definition of ‘universalism’ in their ‘dictionary of terms,’ but I could not find anything dealing with or refuting this doctrine. I did click on the question about God hating Esau before he was born. I copied it so you could see how diabolical this orthodox Christian teaching of eternal hell is.

Is it fair for God love Jacob and hate Esau?

“for though the twins were not yet born, and had not done anything good or bad, in order that God’s purpose according to His choice might stand, not because of works, but because of Him who calls, 12it was said to her, “The older will serve the younger.” 13Just as it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated,” (Rom 9:11-13, NASB).

We see that God loved Jacob and hated Esau not because of anything that they did, but because of “God’s purpose according to His choice,” (v. 11). Is this fair for God to do? Yes it is.
First of all, whatever God does is fair. God can do no wrong, so if He loves one and hates another, it is fair. Second, God owes us nothing. He is not obligated to love anyone. He loves out of the freedom of His will and plan, not because of anything in us. He loves because of what is in Him. Third, all people are by nature children of wrath (Eph 2:3). This means that because we are all fallen and because we are all sinners, the “fair” thing to do is to let us all go to hell. Fairness deals with what is right. Since it is only God who is holy and pure and right, and not us, it is perfectly fair that all of us sinners be judged and condemned by God. But, God does not choose to do that. Instead, He sent His only begotten Son to die for our sins so that we might be saved (Joh 3:16;1Pe 2:24).
So, yes it is fair that God loves one and hates another. It is not fair, however, that God would send His Son to die for us so that we might be saved. That wasn’t fair. That was sacrificial love.

To answer your question, I thought that the salvation of all was the absolutely most ridiculous and most obviously unscriptural thing I had ever heard of when I first came upon the belief. I simply could not believe that the word ‘aion,’ was the word behind every ‘eternal’ and ‘everlasting’ and ‘forever’ in the scriptures. At first I refused to believe that ‘times aionian’ had a beginning or an end. All the entries in the Strong’s concordance convinced me that aions have a definite beginning and a definite end. It took me two whole years of constant study to see the Truth of universal reconciliation.

Now let’s give this paragraph [ above] a scriptural analysis. I have emboldened the first half of the third paragraph and underlined the last sentence in that paragraph. It is this statement that sums up the essence of the orthodox Christian God. Just as Judaism, “the mother of harlots,” all of her Christian daughters “blaspheme the name of God among the Gentiles” (Rom 2:24) through this blasphemous doctrine of eternal hell fire..

Look at this scripture:

2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works[[ or our ‘free’ choices], but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

The words ‘world began’ in both of these verses are the Greek words ‘chronos aionios‘ and should read “before times eonian.”

Here we are twice told that we were chosen for life eonian, before the eons began. For God to know exactly who would receive eonian life, He had to have known that all the others would not receive eonian life. According to this teaching on [ the site you mention], God chose before the world began to send most of mankind to hell to burn in unimaginable, searing anguish and misery and pain for thousands and millions and billions and trillions of years and that is not even the beginning of the purposeless unending torment that the ‘God is love,’ God of the orthodox Christian and Jewish religions present to the world.

This doctrine, like every other doctrine of orthodoxy, is a lesson in the definition of the word ‘contradiction.’

God is said to be ‘love.’ And yet we are taught that :

Fairness deals with what is right. Since it is only God who is holy and pure and right, and not us, it is perfectly fair that all of us sinners be judged and condemned by God. But, God does not choose to do that. Instead, He sent His only begotten Son to die for our sins so that we might be saved.

According to this paragraph you “might” possibly be saved from this eternal hell that God knew “before the world began” that most people would end up in. Now, what do you suppose is the most crucial part of this hope of salvation according to this orthodox Christian teaching? Is it the cross and the work of Christ? Is that what determines who will be saved? One might think that since salvation is of God “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,” that the determining factor in our salvation is “His own purpose andgrace which was given us in Christ before the world began.” One might think that, but according to orthodox teaching and according to the teaching of [ the above paragraph], one would be wrong.

No, according to orthodox Christianity, it is the ‘beast’ himself, who sits on the ‘throne of God,’ who ‘proclaims himself to be a God,’ who has the power to nullify the work of the cross. According to this doctrine, it is your “free moral agency” that is the deciding factor in your salvation. According to this unscriptural doctrine, you have the power to tie the hands of both the Father and the Son and to thwart their will for your salvation. They always concede that “maybe Adam was predestined to be lost, maybe Cain and maybe Esau was hardened by God to work out His own purpose in this earth, and maybe Pharaoh was hardened by God and predestined to be lost, and maybe Judas was predestined to be lost forever, but the rest of us have been given ‘ free‘ choice to decide for ourselves whether to accept Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf. And it is our decision that is final. All these stories about Adam and Cain and Esau and Pharaoh; those are just history lessons. They have nothing at all to tell you about your own salvation and how it is accomplished” so their belief seems to be. – ‘”Your salvation, in the final analysis does not depend upon the work of Christ. It depends, ultimately upon your choice of whether you will choose Christ, and that choice is free from any influence from any outside source. It is especially free from any influence from God.” Billy Graham instructs his audience not to pray for those who come forward because this “must be their decision.” What utter blasphemy! Compare all this darkness and all the orthodox lies to the truth of the scriptures:

Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Rom 9:16 So then it [ salvation] is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: [ Be sure to read ‘After The Counsel of His Own Will’]
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [ We don’t even contribute the faith. “It is the gift of God.”].
Joh 6:44 No man can [ is able] come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw [ Greek- drag] him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. [ especially ‘choose’ to obey Him].
Jer 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Pro 16:1 The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.
Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Pro 20:24 Man’s goings [ good or bad] are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?

Then, of course, there is the very verse that the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry refers to here to explain their ‘fair and loving Father,’ God:

Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Rom 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Where in the entirety of scripture is the doctrine of ‘free’ choice? “Choose you this day” does not tell you that God does not already know what that choice will be. God is all knowing as the scriptures declare throughout.

The ‘election’ are the ‘firstfruits,’ they are not the ‘only fruits.’ ‘Only fruits’ is not a scriptural phrase.

Here, on the other hand, are the true words of a truly loving Father, who is a true God of true love:

Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Joh 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.

Was Christ crucified and “lifted up from the earth?”

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Orthodoxy reduces God’s ‘will’ here to a wistful ‘desire.’ But does God have any ‘wistful desires?’ Here is what we are told about the things that God ‘desires:’

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

“I will do all my pleasure!” This word ‘pleasure’ is translated from the Hebrew word ‘chephets,’ Strongs #2656. It is translated ‘pleasure’ 15 times. But it is translated ‘desire’ 12 times. Now what does this do for 1Ti 2:4 if we translated it as orthodoxy wants us to translate it:

1Ti 2:4 Who will have [ orthodox translation – desires] all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Now what does God tell us about anything that gives Him ‘pleasure,’ or anything that He desires?

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

As distasteful as it is for our harlot orthodox mother churches to swallow, as distasteful as it is for the beast within, sitting on the throne that he will be forced to give up, the Truth of the scriptures is that God has no ‘wistful desires.’ If God desires anything, He gets it! ” I will do all my pleasure!”

When they say: “So, yes, it is fair that God loves one and hates another,” they say this in reference to sending the ‘hated’ into eternal, unending, unimaginable, misery and pain with no purpose or goal in mind.

Scripture, on the other hand teaches that this is only eonian.

[ The web site you mentioned], along with all orthodoxy, teaches the fabled lie of ‘free’ moral agency. Scripture, on the other hand teaches that God is working “all things after the counsel of His own will.”

I will pray that both you and your girlfriend will see the truth of God’s Word and the depth of His love and the extent of His sovereignty.

In His service,

Mike

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