Deuteronomy – Deu 2:1-7 Who Do The Children of Esau Represent?

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Deu 2:1-7 Who Do The Children of Esau Represent?

Deu 2:1 Then we turned, and took our journey into the wilderness by the way of the Red sea, as the LORD spake unto me: and we compassed mount Seir many days.
Deu 2:2 And the LORD spake unto me, saying,
Deu 2:3 Ye have compassed this mountain long enough: turn you northward.
Deu 2:4 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:
Deu 2:5 Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.
Deu 2:6 Ye shall buy meat of them for money, that ye may eat; and ye shall also buy water of them for money, that ye may drink.
Deu 2:7 For the LORD thy God hath blessed thee in all the works of thy hand: he knoweth thy walking through this great wilderness: these forty years the LORD thy God hath been with thee; thou hast lacked nothing.

The question with which we must deal when reading these verses is "who do the children of Esau represent that dwell in mount Seir?" We know from scripture that the whole bible, from beginning to end, is speaking about only two men - The old man and the new man, the first Adam and the second Adam, (1Co 15:45). If Israel represents our new man, Christ, and Esau our old man, Adam, then what is this possession of Mount Seir that God has given to our old man that the new man cannot have? SIN! We will see that sin is Esau's inheritance, and to him it was given BY GOD, and he has built a great kingdom. Like Pharaoh, whom God raised up for the purpose of showing His power in destroying Pharaoh and his kingdom.

Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up (raising him up is giving him an inheritance ), that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Pro 14:18 The simple inherit folly: but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.

Gen 25:22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.
Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

We know one nation is Esau (Edom) and one nation Jacob (Israel), old man, new man, first Adam, second Adam.

Gen 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

Gen 25:30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom. (see H123 and how it traces back to Adam - mankind - flesh, first Adam ).

One son's inheritance is Canaan, and the other son's inheritance is Mount Seir.

Gen 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Deu 2:5 Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession. (The word. 'possession' is H3425 and means heritage, possession, or inheritance)

We know from our previous studies that the word 'mount' means "promotion", it represents the power that is given to someone for a possession or an inheritance. We can see that just in the last verse alone where "mount Seir" is given to Esau for an inheritance, and the word "Seir" has its own distinct meaning;

Formed like H8163; rough; Seir, a mountain of Idumaea and its aboriginal occupants, also one in Palestine: - Seir.
Total KJV occurrences: 39

As you can see the word comes from H8163 or it says is formed like H8163 and that means;

שָׂעִר שָׂעִיר
śâ‛ı̂yr śâ‛ir
saw-eer', saw-eer'
From H8175; shaggy; as noun, a he goat; by analogy a faun: - devil, goat, hairy, kid, rough, satyr.
Total KJV occurrences: 59

The above definition describes who we are from birth as Adam in the mythical creatures of a FAUN and a SATYR. below are their definitions;

FAUN, n. [L. faunus.] Among the Romans, a kind of demigod, or rural deity, called also sylvan, and differing little from satyr. The fauns are represented as half goat and half man.

SA'TYR, n. [l. satyrus; Gr. a monkey, a fawn.]
In mythology, a sylvan deity or demi-god, represented as a monster, half man and half goat, having horns on his head, a hairy body, with the feet and tail of a goat. Satyrs are usually found in the train of Bacchus, and have been distinguished for lasciviousness and riot. They have been represented as remarkable for their piercing eyes and keen raillery.

This is who we are as Adam in the flesh. We are unclean, and we are hairy. Being hairy represents one who cannot stop sinning;

Psa 68:21 But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

Gen 25:25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

Now that we have described the inheritance of our old man and the inheritance of the flesh of all mankind, we must understand why God tells us that we are not to attack the Edomites in Mount Seir. Sin is the inheritance of the flesh, of the first Adam. All that the flesh can get from flesh it will, for that's its inheritance. It is not our job, as Jacob, to take our brother's inheritance from him. It is not our job in this life to remove an Edomite from his inheritance. We are to concern ourselves with the nation of Israel INWARDLY, not the nation of Edom OUTWARDLY. The time will come when all the world will be given to Israel, and the world will be ruled by a rod of Iron, Israel, Christ in us. But now, while we are still in these earthly bodies, before our change into terrestrial bodies, is not the time to judge the world or try to reprove it. To do so is to try and take their rightful inheritance. This time will come during the millenium when Christ will rule the Edomites with His rod of iron, His Christ, getting the world ready for their conversion in the lake of fire. We can surround it, march around it, observe it, learn from it, but the time comes when we must turn northward and look up to Him Who created it all.

Deu 2:3 Ye have compassed this mountain long enough: turn you northward.

Obviously I am not saying we are to approve of them and their ways, which is/was/and will be us and our ways. It was not us who separated us from our mother's womb to be Jacob (our spirit) and for them to be Esau (our flesh). We did not separate ourselves to be who we are now and to know what we know now - our Father did, not us.

How many of us wanted to go back to Egypt for the things of Egypt? We all struggle everyday with bowing to Esau and being scared of our own flesh.

Gen 33:3 And he (Jacob) passed over before them, and bowed himself to the ground seven times, until he came near to his brother (Esau).

But we are to only concern ourselves with Israel, not Edom.

Luk 12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.
Luk 12:14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

It is not our job, NOW, to judge the world and all the deeds in the world. That's God's job! Our job is to judge ourselves, within Israel. Those that are without are Edomites and are exactly where God wants them. He is their God, not us. We are to judge ourselves within the Body of Christ and by doctrine and teachings remove that which offends the Body. The Head of this Body will remove whatever can make His body sick. By doctrine we are to reprove and rebuke our Body and to do so with all longsuffering;

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

This charge is to Timothy to preach the word inwardly to the Body, not to the world. The reproving, rebuking, exhorting that is done by all longsuffering AND DOCTRINE is done to those who UNDERSTAND TRUE DOCTRINE, not to those on the outside of it. Those who will not endure THIS SOUND DOCTRINE will be weeded out by it. The fire of God's word will itself burn up all chaff, and they will leave. The chaff is the world and Edom, and we need not go to the world to reprove them of their deeds. That's not our job, YET. The time will come that the world (Edom) will attack Israel, and the gloves will come off, and they will be defeated during the millenium. This time is written out in 2 Chronicles 20, but first we must realize that this Mount Seir is inward, and this judgment is first inward before it can happen outwardly.

2Ch 20:1 It came to pass after this also, that the children of Moab, and the children of Ammon, and with them other beside the Ammonites, came against Jehoshaphat to battle.
2Ch 20:2 Then there came some that told Jehoshaphat, saying, There cometh a great multitude against thee from beyond the sea on this side Syria; and, behold, they be in Hazazontamar, which is Engedi.
2Ch 20:3 And Jehoshaphat feared, and set himself to seek the LORD, and proclaimed a fast throughout all Judah.
2Ch 20:4 And Judah gathered themselves together, to ask help of the LORD: even out of all the cities of Judah they came to seek the LORD.
2Ch 20:5 And Jehoshaphat stood in the congregation of Judah and Jerusalem, in the house of the LORD, before the new court,
2Ch 20:6 And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?
2Ch 20:7 Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?
2Ch 20:8 And they dwelt therein, and have built thee a sanctuary therein for thy name, saying,
2Ch 20:9 If, when evil cometh upon us, as the sword, judgment, or pestilence, or famine, we stand before this house, and in thy presence, (for thy name is in this house,) and cry unto thee in our affliction, then thou wilt hear and help. [look inwardly at the evil of sin that rises up against us].
2Ch 20:10 And now, behold, the children of Ammon and Moab and mount Seir, whom thou wouldest not let Israel invade, when they came out of the land of Egypt, but they turned from them, and destroyed them not;
2Ch 20:11 Behold, I say, how they reward us, to come to cast us out of thy possession, which thou hast given us to inherit [The fruits of our inheritance that is disrupted by sin is peace, love, joy, (Gal 5:22) and goodness and righteousness (Eph 5:9)].
2Ch 20:12 O our God, wilt thou not judge them? for we have no might against this great company that cometh against us; neither know we what to do: but our eyes are upon thee.

We are to encompass Mount Seir for a time, until we see it inwardly, then we are to go north or put "our eyes upon thee". Then God allows us to go into the wilderness before we come back later, not only encompass Mount Seir, but to defeat it and possess it for the kingdom of God. He overcomes Mount Seir in our lives, and Edom is slowly defeated. This is the judging inwardly by doctrine. When Mount Seir comes against us inwardly is as when we are buffeted and tried by our flesh.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

However, the LORD is in control of our flesh and the purpose of its rising up against our new man. Let's read Ezekiel 35 as Christ/Israel speaking to our old man Adam/Esau.

Eze 35:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me [the 'me' is my new man to whom the LORD speaks], saying,
Eze 35:2 Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it,
Eze 35:3 And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O mount Seir [our old man Edom], I am against thee [my name], and I will stretch out mine hand against thee [my name], and I will make thee [my name] most desolate.
Eze 35:4 I will lay thy cities waste, and thou shalt be desolate, and thou shalt know that I am the LORD.
Eze 35:5 Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel [the true doctrines of Christ (Rom 1:18-32)] by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
Eze 35:6 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.
Eze 35:7 Thus will I make mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it him that passeth out and him that returneth.
Eze 35:8 And I will fill his mountains with his slain men: in thy hills, and in thy valleys, and in all thy rivers, shall they fall that are slain with the sword.
Eze 35:9 I will make thee perpetual desolations, and thy cities shall not return: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 35:10 Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there [Remember Genesis 25:22-23 - two nations were in her womb vying for control]:
Eze 35:11 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee [When God makes Himself known to the new man, Israel, He does it by the judgment of our old man, who, as Esau, hates Jacob for getting the inheritance].
Eze 35:12 And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.
Eze 35:13 Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them. [Israel and WE are the same - Acts 9:4]
Eze 35:14 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoiceth, I will make thee desolate.
Eze 35:15 As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

"I will make thee desolate." Because it is/was/will be from Him the Edomites do come. We have no power to fight against any sin in and of ourselves. The enemy comes from God; the power to defeat that enemy also comes from God. We have no power to fight against it. He rules in the kingdoms of our heathen nations. He sets one up and tears one down, all according to His plan for our lives as the nation of Israel. The land of Canaan is the type and figure of our promised land, the kingdom of God within us. Mount Seir is the kingdom of Edom, the kingdom of our old man which rages against Israel, our new man, Christ. It's what we inherited from our father, Adam. Edom is the religious old man from whom we buy before we can go on. We must buy from the beast so we can die and be resurrected. We must first obtain the mark of the beast before we can identify what it is. This will be our subject for next week, LORD willing.

Deu 2:6 Ye shall buy meat of them for money, that ye may eat; and ye shall also buy water of them for money, that ye may drink.

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